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StabbyMcGinge
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It's probably unlikely (but not impossible) the community convinces Bort to run some sort of re-targeting marketing campaign to engage older players to come back to increase the number of agents to fill up the CPU teams, so I was trying to think of something fairly light touch to improve the experience for all.

Currently, CPU players are too weak, especially at higher levels. At plateau you can easily run up 400-0 scores, and you literally never have close games with a full human team vs a CPU team.

In order to make the games against CPU teams more competitive, there are a couple ideas I had;

Buff CPU raw numbers (light touch)
As far as I know CPU players will have set attribute numbers based on their position with no variance. They're just positional templates. Boost these numbers by a % amount, lets just go with 5%.

It would be a case of Bort going to the CPU player template entries in a DB and adjusting the flat numbers. There would obviously be some testing involved to make sure the game doesn't break, but this doesn't seem like something that is difficult to do.

Introduce dynamic, proportional attribute values
In a given league, Bort will have access to the average values of the attributes and ELs of all players in that league. You could take the average on a per position basis then automatically update the attribute values of the CPU teams in that league.

This option is more engaging than the first option, but would take some additional work and could potentially be manipulated by players if they purchase multiple teams, lets say A team is their actual team they are building for, with teams B & C. They could intentionally never assign attribute points to the players on teams B&C in order to manipulate the average value making team A relatively stronger, getting better stats in the process.

CPU player profiles
Much like how a game like Football Manager works, every CPU generated player has a Potential ability value and a current ability value. Bort could introduce the same for CPU players so there is variability between teams, so some CPU teams would be bad and you'd still wipe the floor with them (but maybe not 255-0) and some would be good, competing for playoffs.
Edited by StabbyMcGinge on Jun 17, 2025 15:31:33
 
Robbnva
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As a returning user who is now a team owner and would love to use CPU players to fill in gaps, especially when there is a lack of players, this would huge.

I doubt they will ever do it though, but it would keep me more interested in playing if they did.

 
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StabbyMcGinge
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Originally posted by Robbnva
As a returning user who is now a team owner and would love to use CPU players to fill in gaps, especially when there is a lack of players, this would huge.

I doubt they will ever do it though, but it would keep me more interested in playing if they did.



Exactly! It would also make the D leagues more engaging for casual agents who just like using their free player slots and watching their game highlights.
 
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No. That's just wall-papering over a problem.
 
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yay larry's back!
 
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Originally posted by Catullus16
yay larry's back!


must have downloaded Chrome on his new Trump phone
 
Go Pack 120
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
No. That's just wall-papering over a problem.


I agree that it's a half-assed solution to a whole-ass problem. But if the problem can't (or won't) be fixed properly, then a half-assed solution is significantly better than nothing.

It's a +1 from me.
 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
No. That's just wall-papering over a problem.


What problem is it wall-papering?

I mean outside of the obvious lack of users and lack of dots, not even well built dots but dots in general. Most dots are either Average or high demand.

For casual players, this suggestion helps.
 
StabbyMcGinge
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
No. That's just wall-papering over a problem.


The problem clearly won't be addressed. It's probably a fairly substantial amount of work to set up a re-targeting campaign, running ads, sending emails, discounts etc.

With that in mind, this solution just makes the game a little more interesting for fairly low effort.
 
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Originally posted by Go Pack 120
I agree that it's a half-assed solution to a whole-ass problem. But if the problem can't (or won't) be fixed properly, then a half-assed solution is significantly better than nothing.

It's a +1 from me.


That's my thought, Bort 99% isn't going to do anything to bring more players in, so why not fix the CPU players.
 
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Originally posted by StabbyMcGinge
That's my thought, Bort 99% isn't going to do anything to bring more players in, so why not fix the CPU players.


I think it's a slippery slope or a catch 22 (no pun intended there :rofl, but would the CPU dots be made to be better to the point that they would be better than some of the human built dots? Because that could alienate some of the userbase which is something to be considered. I am all for making games competitive or finding a way to repopulate the game to a fraction of what it once was, but I do agree that this is the more feasible option that we can hope for of being actually done. Because the player base and teams being made are less and less it seems each season

 
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Listen, if Bort was to put time in to help the game this would be at the bottom rung of items that could/should be fixed so in my mind it's NGTH. He didn't make the sim to have CPU teams/players in it IMO as then he would have no paying customers. So if you want to talk about something that will never happen go for it!
Edited by Mauler on Jun 18, 2025 15:07:48
 
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Originally posted by Mauler
Listen, if Bort was to put time in to help the game this would be at the bottom rung of items that could/should be fixed so in my mind it's NGTH. He didn't make the sim to have CPU teams/players in it IMO as then he would have no paying customers. So if you want to talk about something that will never happen go for it!


While that's a spectacular outlook to have in general, it's been proven that he isn't going to do anything to fix the actual issue. Also, it should not be a massive time-sink to give them a 10% boost in attributes and go from there. I don't think the idea is to make CPU games competitive, but the game ending 100-0 vs 400-0 is a massive improvement.
 
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buy a few "hall of fame" flex packages and make it worth his time.

until then, i'm just happy the lights are still on.
 
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