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HBs must be destroyed.

I see some people are throwing the full house and yard (we got got with this) at olines. I’ve noticed we’ll get murdered overt time unless we send at least 5 consistently.

What else has/hasn’t been working for you against these (extremely talented) effers?

If you're talking about EPCC, at first glance I can see that the top 10 defenses you're calling against inside run are giving up 5-6 YPC. That's no bueno, amigo. Use GLB2 Scout to determine which inside runs the opponent does best with, and choose the defenses that shut that shit down. Then do the same for outside runs, off tackle, short passes, medium passes, and long passes, and tag them accordingly. Easy as quantum physics; right?

Originally posted by SperrytheKid
HBs must be destroyed.

I see some people are throwing the full house and yard (we got got with this) at olines. I’ve noticed we’ll get murdered overt time unless we send at least 5 consistently.

What else has/hasn’t been working for you against these (extremely talented) effers?



Some of this may have to do with builds. I am not saying that you have bad builds. What I am trying to say is that the top teams have perfected play builds and on top of that S*s. I have been around awhile and I still struggle against the elite coaches. I do my best to learn from them. My advice is to reach out to the coaches of the teams that you struggle vs or are concerned about playing. Although our community is small, they are not selfish. I hope this helps. Have a good one my friend.

Originally posted by SperrytheKid
HBs must be destroyed.



Deal with it....

Don't mind Cybertron. Just GE being GE. Most of us don't take him seriously.

Originally posted by atlbruce
If you're talking about EPCC, at first glance I can see that the top 10 defenses you're calling against inside run are giving up 5-6 YPC. That's no bueno, amigo. Use GLB2 Scout to determine which inside runs the opponent does best with, and choose the defenses that shut that shit down. Then do the same for outside runs, off tackle, short passes, medium passes, and long passes, and tag them accordingly. Easy as quantum physics; right?

I did that our first season we went close .500

Last season I focused on balance & we got spanked.

This season I’ve accepting that HBs will forever rule & have focused my time solely on prison yard fighting opposing olines & QBs. We’re likely be worst of stats in run defense & best of at pass defense at this rate. We’re 8-5 as of now

Originally posted by agerm73
Some of this may have to do with builds. I am not saying that you have bad builds. What I am trying to say is that the top teams have perfected play builds and on top of that S*s. I have been around awhile and I still struggle against the elite coaches. I do my best to learn from them. My advice is to reach out to the coaches of the teams that you struggle vs or are concerned about playing. Although our community is small, they are not selfish. I hope this helps. Have a good one my friend.

AR15 (our HB) has over 2300 all purpose yards & 20+ TDs on the season and he’s not even top 30 for Pro, let alone all HBs. That’s like saying everyone sucks.

I’m not that focused on EPCC regarding this - I’m still in my growing stages of team building. I’ve looked at everyone’s teams & I’m seeing HBs that have put up numbers. HBs are decked out, but I’m not complaining. It makes me actually have to work on our defense

Again, mostly wondering what has & hasn’t been working for you against the more talented backs. It’s easy to say scout & builds, but I’m rarely seeing HBs that are built the same - let alone same physicals.

So take off the gamer hats and put on the coaching hats for this one!

Originally posted by SperrytheKid
AR15 (our HB) has over 2300 all purpose yards & 20+ TDs on the season and he’s not even top 30 for Pro, let alone all HBs. That’s like saying everyone sucks.

I’m not that focused on EPCC regarding this - I’m still in my growing stages of team building. I’ve looked at everyone’s teams & I’m seeing HBs that have put up numbers. HBs are decked out, but I’m not complaining. It makes me actually have to work on our defense

Again, mostly wondering what has & hasn’t been working for you against the more talented backs. It’s easy to say scout & builds, but I’m rarely seeing HBs that are built the same - let alone same physicals.

So take off the gamer hats and put on the coaching hats for this one!

It is builds man. Builds and tags….but mainly builds. If your players cannot tackle, it is useless.

If a team is balanced or even a two pronged attach like inside running and Screens or throwing to the TE tags can be hit or miss. I have not had much better results with Funzies. I defer to guys like ellix, edgar, kvo, ghanima and Hayrow to name a few.

Originally posted by agerm73
If a team is balanced or even a two pronged attach like inside running and Screens or throwing to the TE tags can be hit or miss. I have not had much better results with Funzies. I defer to guys like ellix, edgar, kvo, ghanima and Hayrow to name a few.

Yeah if they are truly balanced then avoid tags and have solid builds, if you can find tags to take advantage of during scout absolutely take advantage

Hmm..

I see the two pronged attack touched on a bit, but I feel like that’s an understatement based on how much talent a team can put together. Agerm you’re clearly a stud, so that trail off frightens me lol.

I think tackling is an interesting point. 80/50/50/50 & 70/40/40/40 still racks up more missed tackles than some of these open builds with minimal tackling. I honestly think our linemen are the best tacklers & they’re tackle lite. Probably a mix of things that goes into it?

Also, hella teams are giving up running yards - I’m assuming we’re all still looking for the sauce to dilute HB juice?

Personally, I’ve been a fan of throwing the estate at the offense. Of course runners get off some big plays, but conservative defense doesn’t fit our play style well. I get they’re animated, but they’re still filling the role of football players. I’m sure there’s minor things we're missing that could help from a coaching perspective, so I think it’s fun to play around.

The two prong attack used to get me since it’s either you focus on the pass or run - assuming the team is decent at both & has options. You spend a lot of time meticulously planning, and when it works it feels awesome. When they get you it hurts, and when they can switch it up…

I usually scout my opponents pretty hard, when I have time. Not so much now being back to school and coaching football. I use Scout to look for tendencies. If my opponent does not have clear-cut tendencies I usually stick with pass/run tag. This works well for me vs. most of the competition but usually falls short vs. the aforementioned coaches. Ellix paid me a nice compliment by telling me that he considers me to be one of the best coaches in the game and that he thinks the reason why I struggle to beat those guys is due to builds, not play calling.
I am more than happy to share with you the plays that have worked the best for me. I am not sure it will help us beat the upper-echelon coaches who seem to have mastered all of the factors of the game though.

Sometimes the best thing you can do is try and stop a HB at the LOS before they can gain any momentum. That does entail things like inside run tag on the play and making sure to use inside run tag on your defensive tactics as well.

Build wise tackling tech ideally is going to be close to 80 and your pursuit is close to 90 on LBs and Safeties. Other things do play a factor such as balance, quickness, and footwork. Balance is needed to tackle power backs and elusive backs, quickness can just help you get into position, and footwork helps you be in position and not off balance as well.

using the inside run tag can make you open to being passed on a lot though as well so of course that is a commitment you are willing to make.

Originally posted by SperrytheKid
Hmm..

I see the two pronged attack touched on a bit, but I feel like that’s an understatement based on how much talent a team can put together. Agerm you’re clearly a stud, so that trail off frightens me lol.

I think tackling is an interesting point. 80/50/50/50 & 70/40/40/40 still racks up more missed tackles than some of these open builds with minimal tackling. I honestly think our linemen are the best tacklers & they’re tackle lite. Probably a mix of things that goes into it?

Also, hella teams are giving up running yards - I’m assuming we’re all still looking for the sauce to dilute HB juice?

Personally, I’ve been a fan of throwing the estate at the offense. Of course runners get off some big plays, but conservative defense doesn’t fit our play style well. I get they’re animated, but they’re still filling the role of football players. I’m sure there’s minor things we're missing that could help from a coaching perspective, so I think it’s fun to play around.

The two prong attack used to get me since it’s either you focus on the pass or run - assuming the team is decent at both & has options. You spend a lot of time meticulously planning, and when it works it feels awesome. When they get you it hurts, and when they can switch it up…

Tackling is more than just tackle tech/strip/power tackling/grip. Pursuit and Balance is up there too. The best HBs with good morale will also just break tackles regardless, so you have to weigh tackling vs mobility to get numbers to the ball.

On top of that, the best teams have great defenses too, and the morale advantage they gain from stuffing your offense compounds. A good HB with good morale can really rampage through a defense.

Missed tackles can be a factor of:
Tech
Power
Grip
Pursuit
Def Con
Bal
FW
Qck
Diving
Condition
Toughness
Heart
Intimidation.
The specific missed tackle situation would determine what combo of factors went wrong?
Power back? Elusive? Speed? Miss the dive? Open field skates?