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As it stands now, a run tag is needed to stop a passing play - and I get that it was done to stop all run teams - but it completely stops them from even functioning whatsoever instead of punishing them severely and on top of that makes it where the HB screen can be an effective way to utilize 'running' for a team that is all pass while maintaining a ridiculous focus on pass protection from their line.



It's a solution with issues to it for a problem that, I think, should have been pretty easy to workaround.


If tags don't work for the game in a certain playcall, don't give their bonuses for that playcall.




If a team runs a HB screen - it shouldn't be considered either a pass or run for the purpose of tagging and no bonuses or penalties should be applied.
Edited by Raid on Jun 10, 2023 15:15:03
Edited by Raid on Jun 10, 2023 15:13:17
Edited by Raid on Jun 10, 2023 15:11:58
 
TyDavis315
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As someone who feels like tagging could be much more intuitive, I’d like to see this.

 
HIGHerGROWTH
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Bort said he would remove any tag options on screens. There’s no option for bonus or negative to it.
 
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https://discord.com/channels/705620343049551882/748712233005088888/1113959382808526938

https://discord.com/channels/705620343049551882/748712233005088888/1113959668356759654

https://discord.com/channels/705620343049551882/748712233005088888/1113959797629403187
 
HIGHerGROWTH
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ELIX:” Is it possible to perhaps unlink specifically screens from the tag system so they never get a bonus so the use case for screens isn't specifically to try to be a work around to tagging and instead becomes a game to game playcall?”
“ Currently to me they feel like they make the game a reductive mess of trying to purposefully exploit your opponents tags”

BORT:” I guess they could be skipped by that part of the bonus/penalty function”
“ count as neither run nor pass I guess”
 
eTHICCalBEEF
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I like the idea, but I can also see a few ways it backfires.
 
Adderfist
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I'd prefer to keep screen tags as they are. Screens to a HB from a pass team should be stronger. Same for Screens to a WR from a run team.
 
Cybertron
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What people are forgetting is that for a HB screen to be effective, the pulling linemen need to be run blockers, not pass blockers. So for an all passing team, while benefiting from being pass tagged on the HB screens, they suffer from having pass blocking linemen.
 


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