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Cybertron
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Pass awareness is the QBs ability to quickly go through his check downs (among other things). If you want a QB to scramble, should his pass awareness be high so he can quickly go through his check downs and then scramble? I guess the question is, when does the QB decide to take off running? After he completed his check downs? I am testing that theory out now.

Let's say there are 4 receivers out. Does he check them all once, and then run?

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dredgar
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This with pocket awareness both. They need the pocket awareness to avoid defenders. Add that to the pass awareness
 
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Wouldn't pass awareness give the QB a better chance at finding an open WR and throwing the ball rather than scramble?
 
Cybertron
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Originally posted by apocalypse now
Wouldn't pass awareness give the QB a better chance at finding an open WR and throwing the ball rather than scramble?


It does give him a better chance at finding an open WR. However, if you set his QA Scramble Frequency to often, I would assume he would run after he went through his progression and didn't find an open WR. Pass Awareness also allows him to go through his progression faster.

Or maybe his decision to scramble has nothing to do with pass awareness? He takes off running pretty quickly on this play and I don't think he went through his check downs.

https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/777685/1286531
 
Cybertron
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Originally posted by dredgar
This with pocket awareness both. They need the pocket awareness to avoid defenders. Add that to the pass awareness


No doubt....our QB will be maxing out pocket awareness and have very high footwork.
 
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Originally posted by Cybertron
No doubt....our QB will be maxing out pocket awareness and have very high footwork.


I would also consider the shed sack sa or whatever it’s called. I have seen it work well for dream team.
 
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Originally posted by dredgar
I would also consider the shed sack sa or whatever it’s called. I have seen it work well for dream team.


That is a nice SA. The main issue is that it is powered by drop back power, which he will not be investing any SPs into. There are too many skills to spread SPs across on a scrambling QA. That is a great SA for a pocket passer.
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I'd imagine the higher the Pocket Awareness and having his tactics set to Roll Out and Scramble frequencies set to Often would aid him in taking off with the ball. I got them to change Tuck and Run from Carry Awareness to Pocket Awareness awhile back and not seen anyone use it but my QB on my Lexington team so far since the change.
 
Cybertron
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I would also assume this as well
Originally posted by Myrik_Justiciar
I'd imagine the higher the Pocket Awareness and having his tactics set to Roll Out and Scramble frequencies set to Often would aid him in taking off with the ball.


But I think there is something else too. Our current rookie QB has 70 Pocket Awareness. Pocket Awareness just makes the QB see blitzers and side step/avoid them. Deciding to take off running must be the Scramble setting and something else.

Take these plays for example:

Here he should take off running, as there is a huge opening, but instead he checks down to a covered HB.
https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/777869/1298286

And here:
https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/777869/1298402

Here he takes off running. Notice the SS in the play. He is the only defender not covering a receiver. As soon as the SS turns around, the QB takes off running. Wonder if the defender turning his back signals the QB to run?
https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/777869/1298481

And here, he clears the DE and has an opening, but decided to pass it across the field. I am thinking this is pass awareness kicking in. I just recently raised his pass awareness...(but not much, just to 20). I am starting to think that if you want your QB to scramble, give him 0 SPs in pass awareness so he can never find an open receiver.
https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/777869/1297956

Open lane here and the FS turned his back. So maybe it doesn't have to do with the defender turning their back?
https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/777869/1298086

Here he finally takes off running even though the WR2 and TE seem to break open.
https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/777869/1298115

So I guess if he has piss poor Pass Awareness and never finds an open receiver, then eventually he will take off running. So I will probably go with 0 SPs in Pass Awareness.

0 SPs in Pass Awareness
Max out Pocket Awareness (88)
footwork (70)
Scramble/Roll Out Frequency: Often

Best non-Super* scrambling QA evah!

Originally posted by Myrik_Justiciar
I got them to change Tuck and Run from Carry Awareness to Pocket Awareness awhile back


Thanks for doing that! Our QA will be golding Tuck And Run and On The Run, both powered by Pocket Awareness.
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o The Boss x
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So your offense will still be bad
 
Cybertron
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Originally posted by o The Boss x
So your offense will still be bad


Bad to the Bone!
 
BoDiddley
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Scrambling depends mostly on the defense you're facing. QBs will scramble often against flats for example. But really, you can't build for it.

Also, it makes no sense to give a scrambler no pass awareness. The big benefit with them is they can extend plays till receivers are open. Plus Pump Fake would be useless
 
Cybertron
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Originally posted by BoDiddley

Also, it makes no sense to give a scrambler no pass awareness. The big benefit with them is they can extend plays till receivers are open.


But I would rather him take off running than find an open receiver after he moves outside the pocket.
 
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Originally posted by Cybertron
But I would rather him take off running than find an open receiver after he moves outside the pocket.

A receiver 20 yards down field is more efficient than a 5 yard scramble. Unless you have a QB with speed...his ypc will be below 3 by the time he reaches Pro. Then you'll be in Vet with a QB that gets manhandled by zones(ironically), since they'll be in position to stop the few scrambles that happen, and don't have to worry about Pump Fakes.

The only good scramblers are rushing QBs.
 
Xars
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Why the fuck does your Rookie QB have 70 Pocket Awareness?

Never mind.

Your 5-12 record explains it.

 
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