User Pass
Home Sign Up Contact Log In
Forum > Bugs > First Step
Link
 
Seems like this is firing less this season. Anyone else notice this?
 
Kayoh
offline
Link
 
I've been testing a fuckton of WR builds and every time I've tried a 35-50 quickness build with silver first step it seems completely useless
 
Raid
offline
Link
 
Originally posted by apocalypse now
Seems like this is firing less this season. Anyone else notice this?


I literally tested it last season and implemented it on a DT after promising results, and it's been very disappointing... very low fire rate compared to before.
 
Bretto007
offline
Link
 
My opinion it is firing less. But why?
 
Raid
offline
Link
 
Originally posted by Bretto007
My opinion it is firing less. But why?


Probably something unintentionally broke with the massive overhaul start of season.
 
Bretto007
offline
Link
 
Corndog- what are your thoughts and observations on this one?
 
o The Boss x
offline
Link
 
Theoretically snap reaction shouldn't affect first step firing, it should just fire a tad late.

However, if I had to guess, given that a player's starting balance is effected by their snap reaction roll, first step probably has a threshold where it is unable to fire if the player is considerably off-balance.
Edited by o The Boss x on Jun 8, 2020 06:24:08
 
Bretto007
offline
Link
 
Originally posted by o The Boss x
Theoretically snap reaction shouldn't affect first step firing, it should just fire a tad late.

However, if I had to guess, given that a player's starting balance is effected by their snap reaction roll, first step probably has a threshold where it is unable to fire if the player is considerably off-balance.


That's a good theory. But I'm confused because the ability description for First Step doesn't say anything about balance. Also the skill description for Quickness doesn't mention balance either.
Edited by Bretto007 on Jun 9, 2020 12:34:25
 
Link
 
Originally posted by Bretto007
That's a good theory. But I'm confused because the ability description for First Step doesn't say anything about balance. Also the skill description for Quickness doesn't mention balance either.


That's why it would have been an unintentional nerf. Ah the life of a coder. Fix one thing and break something else by accident lol
 
vipermaw82
offline
Link
 
Originally posted by bluelightning1224
That's why it would have been an unintentional nerf. Ah the life of a coder. Fix one thing and break something else by accident lol


or the even more popular fix one thing, break the entire freaking sim, ive done that when i was coding, make that tweak and then suddenly people dont move anymore or the game making software says your shits broke
 
Link
 
Originally posted by vipermaw82
or the even more popular fix one thing, break the entire freaking sim, ive done that when i was coding, make that tweak and then suddenly people dont move anymore or the game making software says your shits broke


That's why I quit trying to be a game programmer and pursued network administration lol
 
Raid
offline
Link
 
The skill was teetering on the verge of being replaced by other more valuable ones on just about every build, since it's now firing at about 40% of what it used to, it's definitely not making it into any of my builds moving forward as is.
 
Bretto007
offline
Link
 
Originally posted by Raid
The skill was teetering on the verge of being replaced by other more valuable ones on just about every build, since it's now firing at about 40% of what it used to, it's definitely not making it into any of my builds moving forward as is.


I liked it a lot on receivers

Headfake and Catch in Stride don't really fire enough either to make them particularly valuable
 
Link
 
Originally posted by Bretto007
I liked it a lot on receivers

Headfake and Catch in Stride don't really fire enough either to make them particularly valuable


I've been running 3 WR's through pick-up. All of them had catch in stride second. and then their first abilities were head fake, first step, and first strike. Kind of disappointed in the lack of firing. I only watch the replays of their catches, and I hardly see the skills firing for any of these. If they are firing a lot more on the plays they aren't the target of a reception, I chalk it up to not mattering if it fired or not.
 


You are not logged in. Please log in if you want to post a reply.