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Does anyone know why we cannot assign DTs to the DE position or DEs to the DT position. I can assign a SS to LB and LB to DE, but not DT to DE. That shit makes no sense.

Is it because DTs are separate from other Superstars and Bort did not want people gaming the flex system? if that is the case that is the about the dumbest things I have seen. Has there been an official word on this?

DEs cost more than DTs.

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
DEs cost more than DTs.

That is what I thought, and why I stated same in second paragraph. That is some broke ass game design there. Ugh, that is very disappointing.

Originally posted by czman
That is what I thought, and why I stated same in second paragraph. That is some broke ass game design there. Ugh, that is very disappointing.

Everyone would be building DTs to play DE if it were not like that and game the salary cap.

Lmao nothing broke about it. I would build 4 stat DT instead of De if I could of course but that would exploit the system then

Maybe petition for a 3 DT 3-4 package or something. As long as it's not doable all the time it should still be an option. Would be a hell of a way to help keep DEs fresh for pass-rush specific downs.

Originally posted by Raid
Maybe petition for a 3 DT 3-4 package or something. As long as it's not doable all the time it should still be an option. Would be a hell of a way to help keep DEs fresh for pas-rush specific downs.

Would be nice to heavy up three man frontS I bet

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
Everyone would be building DTs to play DE if it were not like that and game the salary cap.

What's the harm in allowing DE to sub in the DT position?

Originally posted by Bretto007
What's the harm in allowing DE to sub in the DT position?

You can do this.

Originally posted by Bretto007
What's the harm in allowing DE to sub in the DT position?

this is allowed.

I will explain this one last time then this conversation should be closed for everyone.

A DE can be used as a DT. it cost more to use a DE than it does to use a DT so whatever thats your salary cap and roster. BUT, if you tried to use say 4 star de and put two at dt that will cost you A LOT!! but if you tried to do 4 star DT and run two at DE it would be fairly cheap. that would thus cheat the salary cap system. In the NFL if you try to do this to a player the DT that went to DE will then make you pay them like a star DE and charge you more, thus NOT altering the salary cap system. on this game it cant altar it that way. So the only way to prevent this is to not let you put DT at DE because it would cheat the system but you can put a de at dt since it wouldn't cheat the system.


Further more, If you want pass rush situations with you team and want to use dime formations as them. you can put DE at DT at run 4 de on your normal roster and get better pass rush, being more liable to run up the gut. not cheating the system this is normal.

That should clear everything for everyone now!

I understand why the rule is there, I just think it is ass. I was hoping to be able to run some 3-4 with DTs. It would allow a better run defense without having to hold DEs who focus on run defense.

The point of the game is to simulate football. Not allowing this because of a salary cap and flex system is not how you reasonably simulate football. It is just poor game design. The number one priory should be to get the game as close as possible to simulating football. Anything that gets in the way of that goal is a bad decision.

I know this is not going to change. I also know this is bad design.

Originally posted by czman
I understand why the rule is there, I just think it is ass. I was hoping to be able to run some 3-4 with DTs. It would allow a better run defense without having to hold DEs who focus on run defense.

The point of the game is to simulate football. Not allowing this because of a salary cap and flex system is not how you reasonably simulate football. It is just poor game design. The number one priory should be to get the game as close as possible to simulating football. Anything that gets in the way of that goal is a bad decision.

I know this is not going to change. I also know this is bad design.

Sorry, no.

If you allow it to happen then people will do it all the time, making pass-rush specific or balanced DTs for the DE position.

This game may be a football sim but it is in a competitive league based format. You have to take into account the actual structure of the game itself and not just the simulation within it. If you allow one person to do this and gain an unfair advantage, everyone will. DE becomes a position of the past - or Bort is forced to raise DT's salary and flex cost to the headaches of everyone.

Originally posted by Raid
Sorry, no.

If you allow it to happen then people will do it all the time, making pass-rush specific or balanced DTs for the DE position.

This game may be a football sim but it is in a competitive league based format. You have to take into account the actual structure of the game itself and not just the simulation within it. If you allow one person to do this and gain an unfair advantage, everyone will. DE becomes a position of the past - or Bort is forced to raise DT's salary and flex cost to the headaches of everyone.



DTs should have been the same price as DEs in the first place. It won't happen. It was a mistake to make DTs the only defensive players at the lowest cost tier. How many S* oline man are there. Very few com paired to DTs. It is one of the imbalances in the game. It is pretty obvious and has lead to all kinds of unintended consequences.

Originally posted by czman
DTs should have been the same price as DEs in the first place. It won't happen. It was a mistake to make DTs the only defensive players at the lowest cost tier. How many S* oline man are there. Very few com paired to DTs. It is one of the imbalances in the game. It is pretty obvious and has lead to all kinds of unintended consequences.

Not really. Do I believe in having star dt yes. But there have been tons of teams with star oline. I have ran two different teams that’s focuse was all five starters being stars so we could run right behind them against any slime we faced