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QB may hold back TE to block extra blitzers

If I don't check the box to allow the QB to hold back extra blockers I don't want to hold back extra blockers. I am suggesting they change this and make the option do exactly what it says. Not kind of what it says. Not sort of what it says. But exactly what it says. I hate this whole feature and if they don't want to fix it they should just remove it.

Here is an example. Down one 2nd and 7 on the opponent's 14 my BTE is held back for no good reason. The box wasn't checked. There was no blitz. There were no extra blitzers. There were just two hurries the entire half. Yet the BTE is held back. This led to a sack because the damn BTE didn't run his route so the QB held the ball forever. The QB should almost never be sacked on this play in this situation. As soon as I saw the BTE held back I knew something bad was about to happen.

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I feel this feature may have cost me this game and it should never happened like that. This is not the first time this has happened but just another example.

I would just like this feature to work as described. "It has always sucked and we just live with it" just isn't good enough. It's not much better than losing a tight game due to a random false start in GLB1. I mean would anyone really be disappointed if it worked as described?

this deserves a bump... i've had this happen to me recently in a few critical situations as well

They are too busy breaking the game to fix this. Happened to me a bunch today. Only gave up three sacks and two hurries. Most importantly the box wasn't checked so they should not have been held back regardless.

This is not a bug and you will get destroyed by bliting LBs if they change it. I'm fine with the change as my LBs would have a field day.

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
This is not a bug and you will get destroyed by bliting LBs if they change it. I'm fine with the change as my LBs would have a field day.

How is it not a bug? If I don't check the damn box I don't want to hold them back, ever. Shouldn't it be my choice to hold them back or not? You think I'm too stupid to not call anti-blitz plays? What gets me sacked is triple coverage on my targets because one is not running it's route. If I want to use that option I will check the damn box. I guarantee if I were ever to do so it would never be a TE. TEs are generally on the strong side anyways where the main blitzes are coming from the weakside.

What part of "QB may hold back TE to block extra blitzers" is confusing you? Why is there even an option if it doesn't work? If it doesn't work it is a bug. If I don't want to hold back my TE and waste a play I should have that option, because it is suppose to be and option.

This change was made many season ago because QBs were getting killed as the sacks were causing morale spirals and the line couldn't pick up the blitzes. It is ironic that TDiddy8701 is agreeing with you because his all-time great LB got most of his sacks from this.

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
How is it not a bug? If I don't check the damn box I don't want to hold them back, ever. Shouldn't it be my choice to hold them back or not? You think I'm too stupid to not call anti-blitz plays? What gets me sacked is triple coverage on my targets because one is not running it's route. If I want to use that option I will check the damn box. I guarantee if I were ever to do so it would never be a TE. TEs are generally on the strong side anyways where the main blitzes are coming from the weakside.

What part of "QB may hold back TE to block extra blitzers" is confusing you? Why is there even an option if it doesn't work? If it doesn't work it is a bug. If I don't want to hold back my TE and waste a play I should have that option, because it is suppose to be and option.


If its an option it should work even if it gets you sacked 20 times in a game......its just like when i select something to happen 100% of the time in my gameplay and it doesn’t happen every time...that happens every game and if i have no other play selected in a situation why are other plays being run? A good example would be tactics set to 100 percent inside rush on third and short inside the 5 yardline and the sim runs a long pass play.

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
This change was made many season ago because QBs were getting killed as the sacks were causing morale spirals and the line couldn't pick up the blitzes. It is ironic that TDiddy8701 is agreeing with you because his all-time great LB got most of his sacks from this.

But there is an option to hold them back if you wish. You can control that. If you choose not to use that option it is on the coach for not checking it. When I scout a blitzing defense I call plays to try to expose the blitz. Then they take the liberty of over riding my tactics and the anti blitz pass play no longer works as an anti blitz pass play and leads to a sack instead.

I can see how plays have changed over the seasons to allow for play calling that would expose a blitz. I think it was made because so many agents were bitching about the morale spiral and constant sacks.

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
This is not a bug and you will get destroyed by bliting LBs if they change it. I'm fine with the change as my LBs would have a field day.

Terrible post by you.

It's an option and it doesn't work. If they actually made it work like it should + made it default to having the box checked then everyone would win.

Originally posted by Rob.
Terrible post by you.

It's an option and it doesn't work. If they actually made it work like it should + made it default to having the box checked then everyone would win.

How is telling the truth terrible? This was a feature implemented by Corndog several seasons ago. It is not a bug. It is WAD.

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
How is telling the truth terrible? This was a feature implemented by Corndog several seasons ago. It is not a bug. It is WAD.

You realize it's an option on the tactics page right? You are suppose to turn it on or off. It doesn't work.

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
This change was made many season ago because QBs were getting killed as the sacks were causing morale spirals and the line couldn't pick up the blitzes. It is ironic that TDiddy8701 is agreeing with you because his all-time great LB got most of his sacks from this.

I don't think you understand what he's saying... he's talking specifically about TEs blocking when they NEVER should if they box is unchecked.

BY DEFINITION, it's a bug.

"A software bug is an error, flaw, failure or fault in a computer program or system that causes it to produce an incorrect or unexpected result, or to behave in unintended ways."

yourself

GE is using a very common coding argument here and, technically, he's right. Holding in blockers is a poorly designed feature that was was fixed via a band-aid. The band-aid only made things worse (from a design perspective).

Long story short, it is working EXACTLY as Bort and Corndog intended it, though the implementation leaves a lot to be desired.