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Anybody ever tried First Step on a speed back? Does it kick in on counters? Cuts up the field? On the start of the play from his stance?

First step is nice for receiving HBs as they often have to run a bit further to get to their targeted area where the QB will actually pass to them. When I have used it, I have been less than impressed by first step as a power rusher. It is not bad for elusives though as it can fire after juke for a faster take off to push up field.

When I tried it on a power back my hope was to accelerate faster after breaking a tackle and being slowed down. It just did not seem to work that way though.

Seems better for Rushing QB's than HB's from what I have seen. Maybe due to the handoff being scripted.

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
Anybody ever tried First Step on a speed back? Does it kick in on counters? Cuts up the field? On the start of the play from his stance?

it does work well for counters. other than that it isn't that big of a help because it will fire on the start of the play but the handoff interaction slows him back down

Originally posted by temujin83
it does work well for counters. other than that it isn't that big of a help because it will fire on the start of the play but the handoff interaction slows him back down

What about tosses? That should help.

Yeah, it's mainly only helpful on counters and isn't worth it to me on a fast back unless you run mainly counters.

I think it would be great for speed backs sense it will fire on couners and tosses, which are the main plays for speed backs.

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
What about tosses? That should help.

tosses are scripted

So first step will never fire on the start of a play? I thought Leos said it did fire on hand offs.

Like people have said, it really doesn't fire on handoffs. But it's very useful if you use screens, and does help when the RB slows down in traffic occasionally.
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Originally posted by temujin83
it does work well for counters. other than that it isn't that big of a help because it will fire on the start of the play but the handoff interaction slows him back down

Yup, counters and screens, basically if your speed back is also going to be a scat back then first step is worth it. You could make an argument for it on just a pure speedback for the benefit on counters alone.