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I'm sure someone has experimented enough to know the answer - and has probably posted it in the forums before.

I screwed up tactics today.

Against 3 WR sets - I wanted to run a zone blitz play. My play book contained only 2 plays: a non blitzing man play -- and a zone blitz.

My tactics were 0% zone / 100% blitz

The computer must have found that very confusing -- because there was no man blitz play available. So does anyone know what it does in that situation?

The result was:
28 man non blitzes
8 zone blitzes

I'm not complaining - because it was my mistake -- but what is the tactic criteria? Because it has to give something priority -- or throw out the conflicting tactics...I'd expect it to be either 100%/0% man run -- or 0%/100% zone blitz run -- or something close to 50%/50%.

Instead it was 77%/23%

Anyone know?

I was under the assumption that man or zone was selected early. Rob had laid out a defensive thread which went over how tactics affected on field calls... I expected to see the man coverage with no blitz every time. Perhaps it boiled down to their priorities in the PB since you called for 0 zone and 100 blitz. What I expected was the zone play to be weeded out immediately but since there were absolutely no plays that matched your criteria I am guessing it went off of priorities for all plays in the 3WR section.

As far as I know, it goes by the play's distance first, so whether a short/medium/long pass, inside or outside rush catgeorised play? That could be why

Originally posted by Detroit Leos
I was under the assumption that man or zone was selected early. Rob had laid out a defensive thread which went over how tactics affected on field calls... I expected to see the man coverage with no blitz every time. Perhaps it boiled down to their priorities in the PB since you called for 0 zone and 100 blitz. What I expected was the zone play to be weeded out immediately but since there were absolutely no plays that matched your criteria I am guessing it went off of priorities for all plays in the 3WR section.

good question - I should have included:

man non blitz was a 1 priority
zone blitz was a 5 priority


I'm with you - I'd have expected my error to lead to 100% man non blitz -- instead it was only 77% -- so I must be missing something

Originally posted by jakedood
As far as I know, it goes by the play's distance first, so whether a short/medium/long pass, inside or outside rush catgeorised play? That could be why

another good question.

I very rarely mess with play distances in my defensive tactics. All zero.

I've heard issues witt that before, maybe by using distances to choose the plays you want, you'd get it more often to fire the way you want?

My error was in not putting it at 100% zone -- caused by a last minute (literally) change to my 2Wr defense...then also changed the 3WR defense..then changed my mind - and put the 3WR plays back in...but in a rush forgot about the need to put a non-blitz zone.

Normally - I'd have 2 zone plays in there - but only 1 blitz - and the blitz gets run every time. In a rush...I screwed up.

Did your prevent section of tactics have zone anywhere causing the few zone plays to fire? If not then I dont think that I can make sense of it.

no - prevent and basic strat both have 0 for every single box...except for blitz - which is 100%

Originally posted by TxSteve
My error was in not putting it at 100% zone -- caused by a last minute (literally) change to my 2Wr defense...then also changed the 3WR defense..then changed my mind - and put the 3WR plays back in...but in a rush forgot about the need to put a non-blitz zone.

Normally - I'd have 2 zone plays in there - but only 1 blitz - and the blitz gets run every time. In a rush...I screwed up.

Distance then zone/blitz. Not sure what you had for distance plays between the 2. But if you had zero set on distanc, as what Leos said, it could have fired off priorities at that point. But if you wanted a surefire higher hit on the regular zone vs Zone blitz then you need to get zone percentage in there, higher than the blitz to offset that. But depending on what man plays you have in other sets also. If you are worried about man vs zone vs blitz then run all zeros in tactics and just set priorities. Then there is nothing it bases the plays on except the 1-5 priorities.

Now, if I'm understanding you correctly. All the distances are set at "0".
So first the system starts there, ok nothing matches, so it's going to pick a random distance out of your playbook.
example:
2 cat blitz weak = Short
4-3 man base = medium

Now that it chose a "Medium" distance, it will now go to the secondary portion which is the "Zone" and "Blitz" options.
Except since you only have 1 option under "Medium", it auto picks that play and your "100% Blitz" no longer matters.

That's how my understanding of the play calling is. So I'm not sure if that played into your 2 plays you chose of the distance on the actual play.

I personally like to tailor distance sets though depending how they run offenses on each down and yardage set to really customize it.

Originally posted by SithLord
Distance then zone/blitz. Not sure what you had for distance plays between the 2. But if you had zero set on distanc, as what Leos said, it could have fired off priorities at that point. But if you wanted a surefire higher hit on the regular zone vs Zone blitz then you need to get zone percentage in there, higher than the blitz to offset that. But depending on what man plays you have in other sets also. If you are worried about man vs zone vs blitz then run all zeros in tactics and just set priorities. Then there is nothing it bases the plays on except the 1-5 priorities.

With this though, you are still allowing the system to choose a Random distance before your Priorities kick in.

Originally posted by canterob
With this though, you are still allowing the system to choose a Random distance before your Priorities kick in.

Are you positive about that? I did it last season just to do a mock defense on another team so the oc on Detroit could test out some offensive plays. I had short medium long and even zone plays and set the priorities some plays were 5 the rest were 1-2 priority and the percentages were almost exactly on par with the priority setup regardless of distance.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum/thread/5225371

" Originally posted by Rob.
First, the sim will check the boxes for Pass Short, Pass Medium, Pass Long, Inside Run and Outside run and make a choice.
Which choice the sim picks is based on the numbers in these boxes. If 100 is in the Pass Short Box, it will pick Pass Short
every time. If you have 30 Pass Short, 30 Pass Medium and 40 Inside Run it will pick Pass Short 30% of the time, Pass Medium
30% of the time and Inside Run 40% of the time.

Once the sim decides what type of play it is looking for, it will look at your playbook and see if you have any matching plays.
Let's say it chooses short pass, and you are currently facing 3WR offense. It will look at your 3WR plays and pick a short play.

If you have only 1 play labeled as short pass against that formation, then that play will get called every time. "


Found where I was referencing my understanding from.