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Hey ive been seriously considering reseting my team back to rookie and trying to build my team up again. My team is pretty mediocre at the moment and if anything are doing a lot worse than they were last season. I think the biggest factor though is my builds the first time around have been pretty bad so i want a fresh start since i know a bit more.

Part of my idea though for redoing the team is having a quarterback built specifically for the QB run and another as a pocket passing focus. Are the advantages to having to specialist QBs enough to try it instead of having just 1 dual threat QB? A large part of what I wanted to try was having an extremely interchangeable offense. At the moment I have the roster in my head as well as the players i want per position but if having 2 QB's is inefficient I can always use the extra space for added depth somewhere else.

I can think of a downside...salary.

Is there a way I can check salary before creating them?

With no Superstar players it's easy to stay under the cap imo. It's only adding Superstars that you need to worry.

Originally posted by Schauer
Is there a way I can check salary before creating them?

look for rookie players on other teams with the same salary increasing traits

From the title I expected a whine thread where someone says why he is leaving the game or "resting" of it.^^
Greetz

It boils down to you'll use the rushing QB on goalline formation for the goalline QB rollout plays.

You'll use the passer on your normal offensive sets. It's done by some teams, even at the Veteran level. It will provide you more playcalling options as a result.

Whether it's worthwhile or not depends on who you ask.

Originally posted by Galithor
It boils down to you'll use the rushing QB on goalline formation for the goalline QB rollout plays.

You'll use the passer on your normal offensive sets. It's done by some teams, even at the Veteran level. It will provide you more playcalling options as a result.

Whether it's worthwhile or not depends on who you ask.

If you design your team around it, it can work... but having both run and pass blockers (or combo) means you're going to spread yourself thin (or you'll have to jack conditioning a lot higher) and thus slightly less effective performance-wise. I've seen passing teams with running Olines though, so who knows

Also defenses can shut down the GL fairly easily, so then you're just a mediocre passing team.

Originally posted by Aeir
If you design your team around it, it can work... but having both run and pass blockers (or combo) means you're going to spread yourself thin (or you'll have to jack conditioning a lot higher) and thus slightly less effective performance-wise. I've seen passing teams with running Olines though, so who knows

Also defenses can shut down the GL fairly easily, so then you're just a mediocre passing team.

I don't disagree. I personally don't think it's worth it. I'm generally against any roster design that encourages you to hedge your builds to do more than one thing really well on offense. That extra QB salary is much more useful upgrading some other position to a Superstar.

That said, you might get away with a "high technique" Oline that skimps on power skills to a degree but can then both run and pass block reasonably well. You'd get gold pancake chef, and silver wide load, then maybe goalline blocker? It'd basically be an attempt to mirror the DT builds I promote. If you can get good enough run blocking out of builds like that, They'd certainly be good enough pass blockers probably. Then you just take Air Raid's roster design, and S* a HB instead of the 3rd WR. Add dives to the offense, and you could force people out of the thick coverages. Would be helpful on return teams too.

Originally posted by Aeir
If you design your team around it, it can work... but having both run and pass blockers (or combo) means you're going to spread yourself thin (or you'll have to jack conditioning a lot higher) and thus slightly less effective performance-wise. I've seen passing teams with running Olines though, so who knows

Also defenses can shut down the GL fairly easily, so then you're just a mediocre passing team.


Yeah I figured I'd have to worry about conditioning heavily with the team but I think i'll be able to either pump them with enough conditioning or at least give the pass blockers some points in run block etc


Also salary cap wise ive got 2 qbs on my team right now and im able to afford the S* WR and have about 1.5 million left over

Originally posted by Galithor
I don't disagree. I personally don't think it's worth it. I'm generally against any roster design that encourages you to hedge your builds to do more than one thing really well on offense. That extra QB salary is much more useful upgrading some other position to a Superstar.

That said, you might get away with a "high technique" Oline that skimps on power skills to a degree but can then both run and pass block reasonably well. You'd get gold pancake chef, and silver wide load, then maybe goalline blocker? It'd basically be an attempt to mirror the DT builds I promote. If you can get good enough run blocking out of builds like that, They'd certainly be good enough pass blockers probably. Then you just take Air Raid's roster design, and S* a HB instead of the 3rd WR. Add dives to the offense, and you could force people out of the thick coverages. Would be helpful on return teams too.

I tried it briefly about 2-3 seasons ago, and I was still learning how to build players correctly so it flopped pretty badly once people figured out how to reasonably shut down the QB rollout stuff. I'll probably revisit the idea with my rookie team next season.

The main problem is that if you get a TFL, your passing game has to make up for it, so you generally need longer pass plays, which means your 90% pass blockers are put under even more pressure. Then again if you only did the QB rollout on second and less than 5-6 it may work out ok... we'll see.

One big benefit is you have 2 QBs to eat TT

I ended up trying this and even with two high contracts I'm still left with ~500,000 in salary cap that I could have used for SS's if I knew that the SS meter didnt go up while you had a SS active in that tier .

The only problem ive been faced with so far is with the passing game. Since I've forgone the use of FB's i usually throw a blocking TE in and they end up getting targetted a bunch which means drops ahoy.

Originally posted by Galithor
I don't disagree. I personally don't think it's worth it. I'm generally against any roster design that encourages you to hedge your builds to do more than one thing really well on offense. That extra QB salary is much more useful upgrading some other position to a Superstar.

That said, you might get away with a "high technique" Oline that skimps on power skills to a degree but can then both run and pass block reasonably well. You'd get gold pancake chef, and silver wide load, then maybe goalline blocker? It'd basically be an attempt to mirror the DT builds I promote. If you can get good enough run blocking out of builds like that, They'd certainly be good enough pass blockers probably. Then you just take Air Raid's roster design, and S* a HB instead of the 3rd WR. Add dives to the offense, and you could force people out of the thick coverages. Would be helpful on return teams too.

basically what i'm doing with Fear Factory. S*QB, S*HB, S*TE, 2xS*WR with pure run blocking OLine. The running game up the middle is good enough to not allow pure coverage, but you cannot just stack for running game since we can pass on that. Hope it works out