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So why are the playoff tiebreakers a state secret?

Up front: I am not all bent out of shape about missing the post-season with one team a three way tie at 11-3 someone deserving was going to miss out.

1. I think the current "Quest" for the best possible playoff team though, leads to some questions and while points scored versus points allowed can be a good indicator it is not clearly definitive. Two different leagues three way tie, one decided on Points Allowed on decided on H2H after the division winner is determined ; how is this possible?

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/league/2 (Here apparently Dakota has lost a 3-way tie based on points allowed for the wild card, though owns H2H against the wild card team)
Points Allowed: Music City (257), Dakota (257), Warsaw Wrath (322)

Logical Question: How are the Warsaw Wrath the division winner here? Shouldn't it be Music City they are 1 to 1 Head to Head, if so shouldn't the Wrath be the wild card? Also if Warsaw is the division winner, how does Dakota who beat Music City Head to Head not advance?

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/league/55 (Here VS was a loser on points allowed, but became the wild card in a three way race due to H2H)
Points Allowed: Alpine (237), Texas A&M (266), VS (299) How is Texas A&M the winner of this division? If Texas A&M is the Division winner how does VS advance except by head to head record here?

2. I get your quest for the "Best Team" but (Just like the NFL and College) sometimes the best teams don't win; I recommend you use this (posted yesterday before all this got decided):
[Two Way Tie]
1. Head 2 Head (A two game sweep should make the difference)
2. Net Differential in Head to Head Games (IE one team got blown out in the loss, the other squeaked by in a win)
3. Points Allowed
4. Points Scored
5. Coin Flip

[Three or more Way Tie]
1. Division Record (I'd include head to head domination but that would be automatic with division record IE 4-2 minimum)
2. Points Allowed
3. Points Scored
....Until only 2 teams remain then run two way head to head

Wild Card:
[Two Way Tie]
1. Head to Head
2. Quality Wins (A count of the number of victories against teams with 10 or more wins)
3. Points Allowed
4. Points Scored
5. Coin Flip

[Three or more way tie]
1. Quality Wins (To expound: This gives teams in stronger divisions a slight leg up while not penalizing teams for having one 0-14 team in their division as Strength of Schedule would do)
2. Points Allowed
3. Points Scored
.... Until only 2 teams remain then use the two way head to head



3. Post the Playoff Tiebreakers in an FAQ somewhere and stick to them.

Post the formula.

I benefited from the OP but agree that something is screwed up. I went to bed thinking music city missed out.

Originally posted by Uncle Buck
Post the formula.

I benefited from the OP but agree that something is screwed up. I went to bed thinking music city missed out.

TY,

Also I 100% wish MCM luck especially over Portland ; I am not frothing at the mouth angry - I do feel owed an explanation. Plus consider that not posting, if this was someone else's team might think that Digital Dagger's Ronin team wanted MCM in round 1 so you rigged it (I 100% do not think this)

But Consider All the goofy conspiracy theories people believe like the 4% of Americans believe the US is secretly run by shapeshifting lizard people.

Doubtful that DD wants the miracle. We beat them 3x in a row.

Originally posted by Uncle Buck
Doubtful that DD wants the miracle. We beat them 3x in a row.




Yep part of my point, though trying to get the powers that be to realize in the hands of a much less reasonable person..... you'd be hearing conspiracy cries all evidence to the contrary not withstanding.

I can explain it actually. Warsaw lost only 1 game in division and music lost 2. Just like texas a and m had only lost 1 division game and won the division so division record counts for at least winning the division.

Originally posted by USC_Trojans
I can explain it actually. Warsaw lost only 1 game in division and music lost 2. Just like texas a and m had only lost 1 division game and won the division so division record counts for at least winning the division.

I get that part; however in that case VS won on Head to Head versus Alpine.

Dakota beat MCM head to head so why on the outside looking in?

H2H must not be #1 priority for wildcard, but I don't think it's PA either. The mystery continues!

Originally posted by mrm708
H2H must not be #1 priority for wildcard, but I don't think it's PA either. The mystery continues!

But that's part of my point: It had to be the #1 priority for Victorious vs. Alpine; otherwise Alpine would be in on either points allowed or points for.

Unless its something else we arent even considering, like point differential or something. Or most recent league loss (would be silly).

Must not be point differential cause I think that would still put alpine over VS.

I am pretty sure Tiger was decided by points for. Obviously GLB doesnt determines the division winners first, but breaks all ties at once. So they put MC, Dakota and Warsaw together:
you cant break it matchup wins or losses, because there is an uneven number of games played between the teams)
you cant break it on points allowed because Dakota and MC are tied there as well (I know Warsaw should be out on that point, but they arent, because no decision leads to next step for all teams)
so the script breaks it on points for. There Warsaw is #1 and MC#2

It is stupid, but I am pretty sure thats what happened.

Originally posted by Evil Sports Agent
I am pretty sure Tiger was decided by points for. Obviously GLB doesnt determines the division winners first, but breaks all ties at once. So they put MC, Dakota and Warsaw together:
you cant break it matchup wins or losses, because there is an uneven number of games played between the teams)
you cant break it on points allowed because Dakota and MC are tied there as well (I know Warsaw should be out on that point, but they arent, because no decision leads to next step for all teams)
so the script breaks it on points for. There Warsaw is #1 and MC#2

It is stupid, but I am pretty sure thats what happened.

Thats the only logical explanation I've seen albeit, as you point out highly stupid.

Again nothing against MCM and Warsaw who are both highly deserving imho.

However; going to points allowed like that is not the wisest course of action; the "points scored" differential is from the Sparta games (they played twice we played once). Sparta is not CPU but is 0-14 (pretty close) so not only do they get 2 games against an easy team (happens) but get an easy tiebreaker benefit out of it?

Originally posted by mrm708
Or most recent league loss (would be silly).

Why would that be silly the Bears won a championship like that in 1922...

;D

IMO, There should be separate calculations for division winner and wild card. I.e. division winners should all be decided first then wildcard should be decided based on the 2 (or more) remaining teams that have an equal record and aren't division winners.