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In theory I've added SP to Break Run Block, and took Shed Block to silver expecting my player to break free from blocks and on occasion stun the blocker as per the description of the SA.

In reality, my player gets blocked all of the time on runs, and the times I think that the blocker was "stunned" by Shed Block, my player just runs back into said stunned blocker (who then wakes up) and gets blocked again I also have a good amount of pursuit, so my expectation would be that the player would run around the stunned blocker and make a hit on the ball carrier.

In contrast, Hold Ground works really well and the higher it goes the less the defender gets pummeled, pancaked, and shoved 5 yards back by those nasty blockers that have lots of Run Blk Power and/or Technique. The same goes for its accompanying SA, Unstoppable Force.

I've also notice on my pass blocking OL, that they run block really really well with just a little bump to the run blocking skills, way better than the pass blocking skills at the same level. Although I have noticed Pancake Chef produces very few pancakes on offense from my observation.

Anyone having any success with these? Is it like the interception skill where a run block is broken every once and awhile like a pass is intercepted?

Break Run Block is one of those package deal attributes.

You need to find yourself winning the blocking roll before it really has much effect.

A solid build will help you break run blocks.

The most important part of breaking a run block however, is getting away after.

OK I see what you're saying and that's what I'm working on. Physical skills.

Besides footwork, what other physical skills help in breaking a block?

When breaking the common run block you have to overpower the lineman and then get by.

HG balance toughness footwork BRB and heart are pretty important.

Footwork is what you need. You're not sidestepping enough after the broken block to get around the blocker. You also probably need to think about more than minimum sprinting and quickness too.

Originally posted by Galithor
Footwork is what you need. You're not sidestepping enough after the broken block to get around the blocker. You also probably need to think about more than minimum sprinting and quickness too.

This. Break Run Block just means your guy knows what to do. If he doesn't have the physical skills to go with it, that ends up not mattering.

Originally posted by Xavori
This. Break Run Block just means your guy knows what to do. If he doesn't have the physical skills to go with it, that ends up not mattering.

great explanation

I have 80 in BRB, 3 stars in shed block, 32 reps, 50 balance, adequate quickness, sprinting, toughness, and heart and your telling me that footwork, a skill worded specifically for pass coverage (sidestep and BACKPEDAL)is needed? That doesn't even make sense. If its the ability to change direction then Quickness should be plenty. If you really want to add a real life skill to LBs you should have the Rip and Shiver techniques that are used to deflect off or bull through blockers.

Do you know what footwork is?

It's sorta like the dexterity of feet... Footwork is imperative for movement, quick chops, sidesteps, little juke, anything that involves using your feet to make a quick or sudden move is footwork.

You can rip at a defender all you want, but if you don't move past them you will just get grabbed again.

Originally posted by Naked Welder
I have 80 in BRB, 3 stars in shed block, 32 reps, 50 balance, adequate quickness, sprinting, toughness, and heart and your telling me that footwork, a skill worded specifically for pass coverage (sidestep and BACKPEDAL)is needed? That doesn't even make sense. If its the ability to change direction then Quickness should be plenty. If you really want to add a real life skill to LBs you should have the Rip and Shiver techniques that are used to deflect off or bull through blockers.

If you're bulling past blockers, that's Balance, Quickness (physical) and Power Pass Rush (techniques).

And yes, Footwork makes perfect sense. It's what lets you sidestep, turn in place, backpedal...anything involving moving your feet differently than normal running or walking.

Quickness is starting stopping and changing direction without turning in any kind of complicated way. It's still a really useful d-line skill as the faster you get back up to speed after sidestepping a blocker, the more likely you are to mess with the QB.

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
Do you know what footwork is?



You can rip at a defender all you want, but if you don't move past them you will just get grabbed again.


No you won't. If you are fast and strong you will bounce right off and past the slow O lineman. Engaging in a block should be about brute strength, heart, and balance. Shedding the block is about pushing the blocker out of the way with said brute force and balance. The momentum of being quick and strong when crashing into a lineman should result in more successful shedding of blocks not footwork. Balance, you know staying upright on your feet. Seems to be a double standard if you also need footwork to maintain balance. Why have balance at all?

Originally posted by Xavori


And yes, Footwork makes perfect sense. It's what lets you sidestep, turn in place, backpedal...anything involving moving your feet differently than normal running or walking.



Which describes every skill a DB must have and has nothing to do with a power LB.

Originally posted by Naked Welder
Which describes every skill a DB must have and has nothing to do with a power LB.

You have Break Run Block. Break Run Block is not power. It's technique.

If you just wanted to drive blockers into the backfield, you should have gone with Hold Ground (which I will agree is poorly named).

But if you want to actually use your Break Run Block and your Shed Block skill and accomplish something, then add Footwork.

Or don't.

You're not one of my defenses, so if you are fail...cares...I no haz dem.

Originally posted by Naked Welder

No you won't. If you are fast and strong you will bounce right off and past the slow O lineman. Engaging in a block should be about brute strength, heart, and balance. Shedding the block is about pushing the blocker out of the way with said brute force and balance. The momentum of being quick and strong when crashing into a lineman should result in more successful shedding of blocks not footwork. Balance, you know staying upright on your feet. Seems to be a double standard if you also need footwork to maintain balance. Why have balance at all?


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