Warrior General Games

The New orleans Saints is a cheating team owned by 1 guy, roger31. Every person on the team is owned by him, every account on his team is owned by him. We discovered this accidentally while trying to prep for our game. To spell it out for you, he actually went out of his way to make 43 separate accounts to make every player on his team and not pay any money.

You are not allowed to have multi accounts in this game, whats to stop you or me from making an alt account to infiltrate opposing teams just to steal game plans? Yeah it doesn't mean much at this level but come pro or world league its fucking huge.

This piece of shit is completely blasting the rules and we need all of you to speak up. We tried to bring it to the admins attention ourselves with our time stamp proof.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum/thread/5167529

They didn't give two shits.

He's laughing that he is friends with the GMs of this this game so he is getting away with it.

I'm just glad it happened to me this early so I can bail without wasting money, I'm just giving you guys the info if you choose to continue with the game.

Take it easy.

Toad

You mean New Orleans Saints? Or did they already clear the Utah Saints of his players and ownership? Utah is owned by BubbaLove and his are the only non cpu players there.

He means New Orleans but yeah

GO FALCONS

Well, for those of us who actually came of the cash to buy Flex are getting duped by a guy who is pretty much cheating the system... think its kind of weak. I'm no sore loser either, but I've put a good bit of money into this game, and to think this guy just abuses the system kinda pisses me off

On the plus side, this scandal has finally livened up the Truman forum.

Fuck me it is the New Orleans Saints. http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/team/758

I'm tired of the whole thing good luck in this game

Damn.

the Saints will simply have a Barry Bonds-esque status where technically they win but, everyone knows they had to break the rules to do so. Anyone can cheat to win. Doesn't take much skill for that. Its kind of like golf. Sure, you have a bad lie and use the "foot wedge" or take a mulligan on a bad tee shot on #18. How can you ever know how good you really are by cheating? If I shoot an 85 through 18 holes (from the blues as well!) without cheating, I know I would be at least visible on a pro scoreboard. I guess its all in what you want out of the game. If you want stats to brag about in the locker room, by all means, cheat. If you are a purist and simply want to discover your true potential, cheating isn't going to accomplish this.

Here's what I did. I posted to Customer Support, explained the situation and said that, if the Saints aren't stripped of their wins and roster, every agent in the Truman League (and probably every team in rookie ball) has every right to demand a refund of every penny they spent on Flex Points this season. If the Saints are going to be allowed to go 7-0 for free, why should the rest of us pay for anything?

Originally posted by stareagle
If the Saints are going to be allowed to go 7-0 for free, why should the rest of us pay for anything?

Ultimately, that is the rub. There are many teams out there where a single person owns all the players. Not personally how I would find fun with GLB but to each their own. The sticking point is that the Saints are scamming the pay model. This is money out of the pocket of GLB creators and developers.

Here is what it says in terms of use:

Originally posted by Terms of Use

You agree that you are allowed to control only one (1) account, unless specifically given permission from an administrator of Warrior General Games. Opening or controlling multiple accounts without permission will be grounds for termination of all accounts you have opened, and a possible ban of the IP address used to open said accounts.

In order to give all users a fair chance to read and understand the rules involving multiple accounts, the administration of Warrior General Games may allow merging of multiple accounts owned by an individual, for a fee to be rendered in Flex Points, as long as all accounts involved are less than 60 days old and were opened by the same individual. Merging of accounts is entirely left to the discression of the administrators of Warrior General Games.


Admin claims the matter has been dealt with. I have seen many players removed and replaced with CPUs or new players by Sean Payton. So obviously something was done but it seems incomplete. I don't expect that we will see any changes to the games already conducted. But if the problem persists, I would have a hard time understanding why the option to just ban some/all accounts would not be used.

I get what you are saying Pablo, and at the end of the day, GLB is losing the money since the guy is paying minimum amount of money to compete and exploiting the rules to a degree. My gripe is the fact that there are a lot of us, even more so of us who have spent a lot of money since back in GLB1 who feel its a slap in the face of the game model itself. I get the mods may have dumped on a few of the accounts, but if the mods aren't going to be active in their customer service when it comes to things like this, it just make me personally (I can't speak for the rest) feel cheated that I gave money for flex, and its just not a satisfying feeling on the customer experience side. Anyways, I guess what will happen will happen, but I don't necessarily agree with the lack of what I would call "fair and quality" customer service

Originally posted by sparkhazel
I get what you are saying Pablo, and at the end of the day, GLB is losing the money since the guy is paying minimum amount of money to compete and exploiting the rules to a degree. My gripe is the fact that there are a lot of us, even more so of us who have spent a lot of money since back in GLB1 who feel its a slap in the face of the game model itself. I get the mods may have dumped on a few of the accounts, but if the mods aren't going to be active in their customer service when it comes to things like this, it just make me personally (I can't speak for the rest) feel cheated that I gave money for flex, and its just not a satisfying feeling on the customer experience side. Anyways, I guess what will happen will happen, but I don't necessarily agree with the lack of what I would call "fair and quality" customer service

This. I don't think the admins understand that this is a personal insult at anyone who has invested their time and money into the GLB project, and I go back all the way to GLB1 Season 2. As I expected, the Saints were able to completely shrug off the halfhearted measures against them and even win their ladder game tonight.

Making your paying public feel like idiots for having 60,000 suddenly useless flex points is, I submit, probably not a viable business model. In the end, though, it's their game and their site and it's entirely their decision if they want to ensure the quality and fairness of their product. I just find the apathy absolutely staggering.

I just got a message from one of the admins saying that they had taken care of it... taken care of what exactly?

This is the message I received: [CANNOT POST PMs]

I can't stand him... but only if Roger Goodell ran this game...