Warrior General Games

Such as has happened here:
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/team/50

Dookie Island vs. Murder City Devils, twice in a row.

I dunno, I kind of like them

Originally posted by NiborRis
I dunno, I kind of like them

This... you don't like rematches?

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
This... you don't like rematches?

I just kind of figured that the point of ladder games was to widen the field of teams you got to play against. I have no problem playing a team twice I suppose, but I feel like if you're going to replay a team then there should be some time between the games.

Originally posted by Badhands
I just kind of figured that the point of ladder games was to widen the field of teams you got to play against. I have no problem playing a team twice I suppose, but I feel like if you're going to replay a team then there should be some time between the games.

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Originally posted by Badhands
I just kind of figured that the point of ladder games was to widen the field of teams you got to play against. I have no problem playing a team twice I suppose, but I feel like if you're going to replay a team then there should be some time between the games.

Well this would make no sense if you understood how the ladder works.

I think the point of the ladder is more to match you up with a team that is a very competitive match for you, so even if you are in a league where most of the other teams are not on your level, you'll still get good games every ladder day. So if you and this other team are correctly rated, you should see each other often in the ladder as it should be a good matchup every time.

It's not perfect, especially with new teams that don't have an established track record to determine how good or bad they are, but overall it seems pretty successful.

Jampy getting their troll on again

I understand and i think badhands understands how ladder works, but if you understand basic programming, would be easy enough to add a matchup setup script where if you previously played one team, play another one ranked one higher or lower than it, as to eliminate back tp back games... so lets say #6 beats number #5 and they swap spots. Script would remove playing previous team and play team at #4 or #7 next ladder game.

I'm not saying it's hard programmatically, I'm saying I disagree with the premise:

Originally posted by Badhands
I just kind of figured that the point of ladder games was to widen the field of teams you got to play against.

Instead:

Originally posted by NiborRis
I think the point of the ladder is more to match you up with a team that is a very competitive match for you, so even if you are in a league where most of the other teams are not on your level, you'll still get good games every ladder day.

Since I think the point of the ladder is different, I think that playing the same team back to back is okay and actually desirable.

I'll admit it gets old if you play the same team 3-4 times in the ladder, but that's rare. DD and Funday may have something to say about it though.

Originally posted by NiborRis
I think the point of the ladder is more to match you up with a team that is a very competitive match for you, so even if you are in a league where most of the other teams are not on your level, you'll still get good games every ladder day. So if you and this other team are correctly rated, you should see each other often in the ladder as it should be a good matchup every time.

It's not perfect, especially with new teams that don't have an established track record to determine how good or bad they are, but overall it seems pretty successful.

This. It is random, within a set of 10 or so teams, and when you are in the top 40 or so teams it is very likely you are going to see a couple similar teams over the course of the season in a ladder match. That is a good thing. Unless you have the unlucky time of playing Doinitin or Zorp over and over again.

Originally posted by TDiddy8701
Jampy getting their troll on again

I understand and i think badhands understands how ladder works, but if you understand basic programming, would be easy enough to add a matchup setup script where if you previously played one team, play another one ranked one higher or lower than it, as to eliminate back tp back games...

this would alter the integrity of the ladder you scrub.

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
this would alter the integrity of the ladder you scrub.

Do you think ladder matchups are so flawless now at pairing teams of equal ability that to shift things up or down a place would significantly detract from the integrity of the ladder rankings?

I'm not being sarcastic, this is a real question. I want to know if that's what you think.

Originally posted by Badhands
Do you think ladder matchups are so flawless now at pairing teams of equal ability that to shift things up or down a place would significantly detract from the integrity of the ladder rankings?

If you don't want to play them anymore, keep winning.

don't forget their is a reason you are playing whatever team twice.

Originally posted by Badhands
Do you think ladder matchups are so flawless now at pairing teams of equal ability that to shift things up or down a place would significantly detract from the integrity of the ladder rankings?

I'm not being sarcastic, this is a real question. I want to know if that's what you think.

To be fair, this would be the 3rd restriction added to ladder games - first it was tweaked to "prefer" not playing teams in your own league in ladder games. Then it was modified again to "prefer" not playing teams outside our own age tier. Each one individually doesn't significantly affect the ladder matchups, but we have to be judicious when adding new constraints or the sum of all the constraints will have a significant effect.