If you wanted to, you could see everyone else's. Since you have one of the best teams in the game, I know I am curious to see yours.
Forum > Suggestions > Hey DD, you should open your builds in the name of transparency
Originally posted by bhall43
So we can start a copying wave?
We all did not have the advantage of testing numerous builds on the test server and starting day one with a game plan that we were sure would work to some degree. Just sayin...
So we can start a copying wave?
We all did not have the advantage of testing numerous builds on the test server and starting day one with a game plan that we were sure would work to some degree. Just sayin...
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Originally posted by foofighter24
We all did not have the advantage of testing numerous builds on the test server and starting day one with a game plan that we were sure would work to some degree. Just sayin...
Even testing out a bunch of builds, I have zero idea what is really good. I work on many of the same principles as any of you guys do when looking at the player builder page. I don't know what Homage's guys look like because all his builds are closed to me. But they certainly perform better than the guys I have. I guess I just don't see the need to make everything public. Why not think for yourself?
We all did not have the advantage of testing numerous builds on the test server and starting day one with a game plan that we were sure would work to some degree. Just sayin...
Even testing out a bunch of builds, I have zero idea what is really good. I work on many of the same principles as any of you guys do when looking at the player builder page. I don't know what Homage's guys look like because all his builds are closed to me. But they certainly perform better than the guys I have. I guess I just don't see the need to make everything public. Why not think for yourself?
Originally posted by bhall43
Even testing out a bunch of builds, I have zero idea what is really good. I work on many of the same principles as any of you guys do when looking at the player builder page. I don't know what Homage's guys look like because all his builds are closed to me. But they certainly perform better than the guys I have. I guess I just don't see the need to make everything public. Why not think for yourself?
DD has the #10 team.
You have the #8 team and coach on #5, #13, and #22 teams, with other testers. Let's not pretend information learned from creating numerous players and observing in game reactions by each is not an advantage.
Even testing out a bunch of builds, I have zero idea what is really good. I work on many of the same principles as any of you guys do when looking at the player builder page. I don't know what Homage's guys look like because all his builds are closed to me. But they certainly perform better than the guys I have. I guess I just don't see the need to make everything public. Why not think for yourself?
DD has the #10 team.
You have the #8 team and coach on #5, #13, and #22 teams, with other testers. Let's not pretend information learned from creating numerous players and observing in game reactions by each is not an advantage.
i spend my sp based on how my dots are playing.
i run a lot of scrims.
i don't "scout" aside from looking at the matchup page.
i run a lot of scrims.
i don't "scout" aside from looking at the matchup page.
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Originally posted by foofighter24
DD has the #10 team.
You have the #8 team and coach on #5, #13, and #22 teams, with other testers. Let's not pretend information learned from creating numerous players and observing in game reactions by each is not an advantage.
I do nothing for TT's team first of all. I am just an lolgm there currently.
As far as the #5 team goes. I can't see a single build nor do I factor into anything Homage is doing. I just have an offense, one of which anyone in this game could copy if they took any time to do so, and probably do alright with.
I don't factor into any of the builds on Zorin either. They all spend their points on whatever. Their builds don't even really perfectly fit my plan to be quite honest. But it works I guess.
My team is only factored by me as far as my builds go and outside of my safeties making a bunch of tackles and my DE getting some sacks, my players don't look too great on the field.
Sorry if a 95% passing plan is working?
DD has the #10 team.
You have the #8 team and coach on #5, #13, and #22 teams, with other testers. Let's not pretend information learned from creating numerous players and observing in game reactions by each is not an advantage.
I do nothing for TT's team first of all. I am just an lolgm there currently.
As far as the #5 team goes. I can't see a single build nor do I factor into anything Homage is doing. I just have an offense, one of which anyone in this game could copy if they took any time to do so, and probably do alright with.
I don't factor into any of the builds on Zorin either. They all spend their points on whatever. Their builds don't even really perfectly fit my plan to be quite honest. But it works I guess.
My team is only factored by me as far as my builds go and outside of my safeties making a bunch of tackles and my DE getting some sacks, my players don't look too great on the field.
Sorry if a 95% passing plan is working?
Originally posted by DigitalDaggers
i spend my sp based on how my dots are playing.
i run a lot of scrims.
i don't "scout" aside from looking at the matchup page.
So what is the objection?
i spend my sp based on how my dots are playing.
i run a lot of scrims.
i don't "scout" aside from looking at the matchup page.
So what is the objection?
Originally posted by foofighter24
So what is the objection?
i like my privacy. simple.
txsteve and gank on my team know some of my players stats cause they ask about it in our team forum.
So what is the objection?
i like my privacy. simple.
txsteve and gank on my team know some of my players stats cause they ask about it in our team forum.
Originally posted by bhall43
I do nothing for TT's team first of all. I am just an lolgm there currently.
As far as the #5 team goes. I can't see a single build nor do I factor into anything Homage is doing. I just have an offense, one of which anyone in this game could copy if they took any time to do so, and probably do alright with.
I don't factor into any of the builds on Zorin either. They all spend their points on whatever. Their builds don't even really perfectly fit my plan to be quite honest. But it works I guess.
My team is only factored by me as far as my builds go and outside of my safeties making a bunch of tackles and my DE getting some sacks, my players don't look too great on the field.
Sorry if a 95% passing plan is working?
Don't be sorry. I am not condemning the success, but it is silly to say that building tons of players and observing how they play before the average person was able to even log on is not an advantage. I did not even realize you could lower an attribute below 5 on my first players, and it took a couple more to figure out the relationship of the starting attributes to the caps.
I mean, the testers just happen to dominate the top of the game because they accidentally assigned their points better, or did they have a better idea of how to assign them because of experience?
I personally believe that everyone who tested should open their builds for the first batch of players. Someone who can hear Bort's farts in the next room definitely should.
I do nothing for TT's team first of all. I am just an lolgm there currently.
As far as the #5 team goes. I can't see a single build nor do I factor into anything Homage is doing. I just have an offense, one of which anyone in this game could copy if they took any time to do so, and probably do alright with.
I don't factor into any of the builds on Zorin either. They all spend their points on whatever. Their builds don't even really perfectly fit my plan to be quite honest. But it works I guess.
My team is only factored by me as far as my builds go and outside of my safeties making a bunch of tackles and my DE getting some sacks, my players don't look too great on the field.
Sorry if a 95% passing plan is working?
Don't be sorry. I am not condemning the success, but it is silly to say that building tons of players and observing how they play before the average person was able to even log on is not an advantage. I did not even realize you could lower an attribute below 5 on my first players, and it took a couple more to figure out the relationship of the starting attributes to the caps.
I mean, the testers just happen to dominate the top of the game because they accidentally assigned their points better, or did they have a better idea of how to assign them because of experience?
I personally believe that everyone who tested should open their builds for the first batch of players. Someone who can hear Bort's farts in the next room definitely should.
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Originally posted by foofighter24
So what is the objection?
Because why should lazy people profit off the success of people who put the effort into it. I wasn't a tester yet I managed to make a QB that put up a 94 QB rating and MVP runner up (lost because CPU logic pulled my QB out on a freebi touchdown) put the effort in yourself don't try to leach off the success of others
So what is the objection?
Because why should lazy people profit off the success of people who put the effort into it. I wasn't a tester yet I managed to make a QB that put up a 94 QB rating and MVP runner up (lost because CPU logic pulled my QB out on a freebi touchdown) put the effort in yourself don't try to leach off the success of others
Originally posted by DigitalDaggers
i like my privacy. simple.
lol?
i like my privacy. simple.
lol?
Originally posted by USC_Trojans
Because why should lazy people profit off the success of people who put the effort into it. I wasn't a tester yet I managed to make a QB that put up a 94 QB rating and MVP runner up (lost because CPU logic pulled my QB out on a freebi touchdown) put the effort in yourself don't try to leach off the success of others
If I was lazy, I would not be looking at other people's builds to see what I am doing wrong.
Because why should lazy people profit off the success of people who put the effort into it. I wasn't a tester yet I managed to make a QB that put up a 94 QB rating and MVP runner up (lost because CPU logic pulled my QB out on a freebi touchdown) put the effort in yourself don't try to leach off the success of others
If I was lazy, I would not be looking at other people's builds to see what I am doing wrong.
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Originally posted by foofighter24
Don't be sorry. I am not condemning the success, but it is silly to say that building tons of players and observing how they play before the average person was able to even log on is not an advantage. I did not even realize you could lower an attribute below 5 on my first players, and it took a couple more to figure out the relationship of the starting attributes to the caps.
I mean, the testers just happen to dominate the top of the game because they accidentally assigned their points better, or did they have a better idea of how to assign them because of experience?
I personally believe that everyone who tested should open their builds for the first batch of players. Someone who can hear Bort's farts in the next room definitely should.
At this point I don't really believe testers builds are at any advantage outside of what you brought up which was made well known by us from the first couple days on the boards. Beyond that it is people just blindly spending points imo. I don't know anything about builds at this level and it shows. The best DC's currently are all non testers too.
Don't be sorry. I am not condemning the success, but it is silly to say that building tons of players and observing how they play before the average person was able to even log on is not an advantage. I did not even realize you could lower an attribute below 5 on my first players, and it took a couple more to figure out the relationship of the starting attributes to the caps.
I mean, the testers just happen to dominate the top of the game because they accidentally assigned their points better, or did they have a better idea of how to assign them because of experience?
I personally believe that everyone who tested should open their builds for the first batch of players. Someone who can hear Bort's farts in the next room definitely should.
At this point I don't really believe testers builds are at any advantage outside of what you brought up which was made well known by us from the first couple days on the boards. Beyond that it is people just blindly spending points imo. I don't know anything about builds at this level and it shows. The best DC's currently are all non testers too.
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