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MrNomad
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As the thread title suggest I am trying to determine how these positions are decided. It can't be purely statistics alone because I have a DE that while in the #2 defensive MVP position seems to have superior defensive numbers to me. Also when I look at other DEs in the HoF listing again my DE has superior numbers DEs on the current HoF list.

Can anyone tell me exactly how these rankings are determined?
 
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Yeah one of my WRs beats out a couple guys on that list in the stat department. What's the dealio...does it have to do with league competitiveness? Because in that case let's get the cpus off that list
 
bhall43
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Corndog said there seems to be something up with players switching teams. They look like they are producing a lot for their team or something.
 
MrNomad
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My DE has been with the same team all season. Throw in the fact that he wasn't actually played in his first game he technically has gotten his stats with one less league game played.
 
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league stats is what the mvp are decided on league and league+ladder stats is what the hof is graded from. and the mvp shows the combination of both.
 
MrNomad
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Ok well take a look for yourself at my DE and the league he is in and tell me going strictly by league game stats how my DE is not in first place for MVP. Also for HoF rankings why isn't he in the top 100 when he clearly has better stats than the DEs who are in the top 100.
 
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He did miss 1 Tackle
 
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Originally posted by pauly ginsberg
He did miss 1 Tackle


Equals 4 sacks.
 
MrNomad
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Ok here's the number #1 DE in the game and I believe overall defensive #1 too http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/10683

Now my DE

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/12803

Tell me which one is better.
Edited by MrNomad on Jan 13, 2014 01:07:32
 
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Originally posted by MrNomad
Ok here's the number #1 DE in the game and I believe overall defensive #1 too http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/10683

Now my DE

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/12803

Tell me which one is better.


I'd say probably him.

You have marginally higher stats, but he has had a stronger schedule.
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
I'd say probably him.

You have marginally higher stats, but he has had a stronger schedule.


Ok first of all this isn't season 3-6 of this game no one knew which leagues would be stronger to begin with. I can only play the schedule I have to play since this is the very first season of this game.

Secondly Jason Taylor is averaging 56.4 plays a game compared to my Bruce Sacker's 42.3 plays a game. A difference of 14.1 a game or he's getting an extra game worth of plays every 3 games compared to my DE.

If you look at at production per play then my production is rather more than marginally higher stats.

I have 44.5 half sacks to his 42 a difference of +2.5 sacks in my favor. He has 25 hurries to my 22 hurries a difference of +3 hurries in his favor. So from that perspective roughly even in sacks and hurries. Both have 2 PDs, I have 28 tackles to his 20 a +8 difference or 40% more tackles than he has...that's more than what I would call marginal. I have 1 mstk to his 2 a -1 in my favor but hardly noteworthy. I have 15 TFL he has 8 a +7 differnece or 87.5% more TFL again hardly marginally better. I have 6 FF to his 4 a +2 difference or 50% more but again you can say that is marginal if you wish. I've been caked 19 times to his 22 again in my favor. Then there's Rcakes 79 to 51 in my favor a +28 difference again a little over 50% better.

Put those stats in perspective to number of plays per game...I'd hardly say "marginally" better. League wise he has 3 top 100 teams my league has 4 top 100 teams in it. His league has 5 teams with winning records my league has 7 teams with winning records....not sure I am seeing a stronger schedule here.
 
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Doubt it takes into account Plays per game. But it likely does take into account games played and he has played one less than you.

He has a stronger schedule because his team is higher rated. Thus all his ladder games are played against higher competition than your DE.

Also I am unsure but maybe HoF only goes by ladder games? If that is the case you both have 18.5 Sacks in 11 games but he has more Hurries, PD's, and tackles. Would possibly make sense if that were the case considering he is 5th rated in his own league.
 
MrNomad
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I just wish someone would say what actually counts towards MVP and HoF ratings. Right now everyone is guessing why don't an admin come forward and say league games count x amount towards HoF and ladder games count x amount towards HoF rankings. Just so we have an idea.

Why shouldn't plays per game be factored in this equation? If one player is getting x amount more plays per game then it only stands to reason they should have better stats. The equation should take into consideration the fact that at end of the season one player has say 150-200 more plays than another and production should matter shouldn't it?

If I produce equal or more stats than you do in 33% less plays then I'd say I'm better than you. Kind of like a marathon....if I run one in 3 and half hours and you take 4 hours to cover the same distance I'm better right?
 
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Not technically, you can always be in different terrains and situations that even if it is same distance, you could have different times.

Example, you run on a straight narrow path, no hills, nothing. You complete it in 3.5 hours. He on the other hand has to run up and down hills on a curvy path. His is more difficult meaning it is going to take him longer, say 4 hours. Time wise your better, but he had to do an extra 30 minutes worth of work that you didn't have to do.
 
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Originally posted by Reaper Of The Dead
Not technically, you can always be in different terrains and situations that even if it is same distance, you could have different times.

Example, you run on a straight narrow path, no hills, nothing. You complete it in 3.5 hours. He on the other hand has to run up and down hills on a curvy path. His is more difficult meaning it is going to take him longer, say 4 hours. Time wise your better, but he had to do an extra 30 minutes worth of work that you didn't have to do.


If you are both running the "same" marathon....and I finish in 3 and half hours and he finishes in 4 hours who's better. Sheesh....I thought it was understood that you'd be running the same marathon at the same time.
 
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