Warrior General Games

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/3244/397347

Returner makes some weird movements at 150 ticks, and then especially at 230+ when no defenders are around.

He's not built to be a returner, so Return awareness is low.

Is this a Return Awareness or an Elusive Running issue? Will a toon with low elusive running still try (and miserably fail) to make unnecessary fake movements when no one is around?

Looks like a good juke. Was he on elusive? Because I've seen a lot of those returns on the elusive run-style, they usually just don't work like that.

Yeah, he's on elusive. I don't know what jukes are supposed to look like at these low levels. Anyone got any replays?

Majority of kick returns I've watched the KR will freeze up and 'make a move' which generally results in them looking like they're twitching.

On a phone now but I could find examples later.

Originally posted by o The Boss x
Majority of kick returns I've watched the KR will freeze up and 'make a move' which generally results in them looking like they're twitching.

On a phone now but I could find examples later.

Thanks, but I meant examples outside of KRs. Just regular jukes/fakes.

In that case no, I only see that on kick returns

Originally posted by o The Boss x
Looks like a good juke. Was he on elusive? Because I've seen a lot of those returns on the elusive run-style, they usually just don't work like that.

juke didnt fire. wouldve popped up.

... By juke I don't mean the SA.

next time I'll say cut.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/3296/406598

Kinda seizure-like

Originally posted by o The Boss x
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/3296/406598

Kinda seizure-like

What is his Elusive running skill at?

Not sure it is a build issue. I will have to look at some test server replays.

Originally posted by bhall43
Not sure it is a build issue. I will have to look at some test server replays.

Definitely a build issue.

Originally posted by Corndog
Definitely a build issue.

Thanks, that saved me from having to load a game from the server.

Originally posted by Corndog
Definitely a build issue.

Thanks. I'm not surprised by this, but can you give any more information? Do elusive tactics (and therefore elusive skills) control this kind of behavior?

http://glb2test.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/3580/652469

Returner in replay has low awareness abilities but is running on a power setting.

http://glb2test.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/2562/464346

Full blown returner on elusive with high awareness abilities (carrying and return)

http://glb2test.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/3580/652449

Speed WR on elusive with low awareness abilities.