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On the test server we discussed not including teams from your league in the choices for ladder games. That obviously wasn't implemented...

Ladder
@Pensacola Dolphins
Dec 12 at 18:00 Matchup

League
Dec 13 19:00 @Pensacola Dolphins Matchup

Kinda sucks...

Yeah, +1
I thought the point was to figure out who's the best, not how many times you can win or lose against the same teams

Originally posted by ChildishGambino
Yeah, +1
I thought the point was to figure out who's the best, not how many times you can win or lose against the same teams

what if the top teams are all in the same league?

Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
what if the top teams are all in the same league?

Exactly.

Leave the ladder alone!

Also, fix the ladder!

Give us ELO data! Fix the 0-0-0 on the ladder page!

Originally posted by Time Trial
Also, fix the ladder!

Give us ELO data! Fix the 0-0-0 on the ladder page!

This, and also put the league of each team on the ladder page.

I discussed with Bort a few days ago to make ladder favor non-league.

He seemed sure that it's impossible to guarantee that a team won't play their own league...like if all other teams are unavailable besides your league or something.

Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
what if the top teams are all in the same league?

You already play them and well..that most likely isn't the case.

Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
what if the top teams are all in the same league?

If that were to happen then there isn't much that could be done. It just seems silly that there are 101 teams ranked 1 and a team drew a league team they were scheduled to play the next day.

Originally posted by AirMcMVP
If that were to happen then there isn't much that could be done. It just seems silly that there are 101 teams ranked 1 and a team drew a league team they were scheduled to play the next day.

Ya not a big fan of that either.

Originally posted by AirMcMVP
If that were to happen then there isn't much that could be done. It just seems silly that there are 101 teams ranked 1 and a team drew a league team they were scheduled to play the next day.

It will work itself out under the ELO system.

Originally posted by Time Trial
It will work itself out under the ELO system.

or make it worse. Which is quite a realistic possibility for some teams.

Originally posted by bhall43
or make it worse. Which is quite a realistic possibility for some teams.

If Division and League games affect the rating, you will find that the cream of each league will rise to the top and be playing the top teams in other leagues more often.

Originally posted by Time Trial
If Division and League games affect the rating, you will find that the cream of each league will rise to the top and be playing the top teams in other leagues more often.

Assuming that the leagues are competitive from top to bottom sure. But we all know that won't be the case after so long. And after awhile the ELO will pit teams in a pretty general stagnant place most likely if they are consistent. It concerns me that ladder matches could end up pitting me against playoff opponents in the midst of playoffs or even just before. There could be cases in which you play 3 ladder matches against the same opponent during end season and playoffs.

A ladder match with your league opponent on the opening days is just the tip of the iceberg. You already play the people in your league 1 to 2 times in a regular season. Playing them more than that is really just kinda silly.

Originally posted by bhall43
Assuming that the leagues are competitive from top to bottom sure. But we all know that won't be the case after so long. And after awhile the ELO will pit teams in a pretty general stagnant place most likely if they are consistent. It concerns me that ladder matches could end up pitting me against playoff opponents in the midst of playoffs or even just before. There could be cases in which you play 3 ladder matches against the same opponent during end season and playoffs.

A ladder match with your league opponent on the opening days is just the tip of the iceberg. You already play the people in your league 1 to 2 times in a regular season. Playing them more than that is really just kinda silly.

Meh.

I've been in the situation where I played a team in the tournement, Week 16, and the scond round of playoffs in GLB1 all in the same week, each game being important.

The more you play a team, the bigger the rivalry gets. I have no problem playing a team in my league three times a season unless they are so over matched that the result is meaningless.