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Demoting teams are bolded

Rank ...... Players ...... Age ....... Level .......... Value ......... Eff Level ........... Salary .................... Team
1 ............... 55 ............ 471 ........... 79 ........... 1439.00 ........... 84 ........... $20,755,000 ........... Sunday Funday
2 ............... 55 ............ 408 ........... 79 ........... 1434.42 ........... 83 ........... $12,285,000 ........... South Side Mafia
3 ............... 55 ............ 404 ........... 79 ........... 1432.70 ........... 84 ........... $59,670,000 ........... Venom Dotball Academy
4 ............... 55 ............ 421 ........... 79 ........... 1426.17 ........... 83 ........... $7,737,560 ........... Brazilian Dirty Sanchez
5 ............... 55 ............ 432 ........... 79 ........... 1425.78 ........... 84 ........... $24,335,000 ........... Cincinnati Shockers
6 ............... 55 ............ 393 ........... 79 ........... 1424.96 ........... 84 ........... $26,953,240 ........... Graz Grizzlies
7 ............... 55 ............ 402 ........... 79 ........... 1420.19 ........... 83 ........... $26,125,000 ........... Odessa Mojo
8 ............... 55 ............ 401 ........... 79 ........... 1414.49 ........... 83 ........... $15,640,000 ........... STEEL City Mafia
9 ............... 55 ............ 450 ........... 79 ........... 1414.10 ........... 83 ........... $18,390,000 ........... OffTopica Miracle
10 ............... 55 ............ 451 ........... 79 ........... 1412.99 ........... 84 ........... $23,885,000 ........... Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
11 ............... 55 ............ 396 ........... 79 ........... 1412.29 ........... 83 ........... $23,910,000 ........... Porto People Eaters
12 ............... 55 ............ 412 ........... 79 ........... 1411.22 ........... 83 ........... $26,820,000 ........... Republic of Benin
13 ............... 55 ............ 412 ........... 79 ........... 1409.89 ........... 83 ........... $7,425,000 ........... Asau Golden Eagles
14 ............... 55 ............ 407 ........... 79 ........... 1409.37 ........... 84 ........... $26,938,000 ........... Fire Breathing Rubber Duckies
15 ............... 55 ............ 410 ........... 79 ........... 1407.16 ........... 83 ........... $28,040,000 ........... Doofenshmirtz Evil Incorporated
16 ............... 55 ............ 377 ........... 79 ........... 1407.09 ........... 83 ........... $18,821,960 ........... Definition of Insanity
17 ............... 55 ............ 423 ........... 79 ........... 1398.29 ........... 83 ........... $18,992,280 ........... The Dogs of War
18 ............... 55 ............ 396 ........... 79 ........... 1396.87 ........... 83 ........... $23,986,920 ........... E-City Mercenaries
19 ............... 55 ............ 399 ........... 79 ........... 1396.50 ........... 83 ........... $13,480,040 ........... Miami Red Hawks
20 ............... 55 ............ 423 ........... 79 ........... 1392.34 ........... 83 ........... $24,040,000 ........... All The King's Royal Men
21 ............... 55 ............ 447 ........... 79 ........... 1391.84 ........... 83 ........... $26,837,840 ........... New Orleans Gurupies
22 ............... 55 ............ 430 ........... 79 ........... 1391.50 ........... 83 ........... $25,565,000 ........... District 9 Prawns
23 ............... 55 ............ 439 ........... 79 ........... 1390.55 ........... 83 ........... $16,287,000 ........... Orlando Prime Timers
24 ............... 55 ............ 463 ........... 79 ........... 1389.92 ........... 83 ........... $48,735,000 ........... Coxsackie HOOD Hugos
25 ............... 55 ............ 424 ........... 79 ........... 1389.71 ........... 83 ........... $23,485,000 ........... Nairobi Warthogs
26 ............... 55 ............ 405 ........... 79 ........... 1389.48 ........... 83 ........... $20,085,000 ........... The Cult of Personalities, Wu!
27 ............... 55 ............ 433 ........... 79 ........... 1382.22 ........... 83 ........... $24,187,280 ........... Honolulu Hurricane Wife Carriers
28 ............... 55 ............ 417 ........... 79 ........... 1377.97 ........... 83 ........... $13,175,000 ........... Moose Jaw Roughriders
29 ............... 55 ............ 415 ........... 79 ........... 1372.39 ........... 83 ........... $21,560,000 ........... La Flama Blanca
30 ............... 55 ............ 412 ........... 79 ........... 1364.36 ........... 83 ........... $26,790,000 ........... South Otto Fragile Porcelain Mice
31 ............... 55 ............ 476 ........... 79 ........... 1320.65 ........... 82 ........... $25,175,000 ........... Carthage Clash
32 ............... 55 ............ 561 ........... 79 ........... 1013.28 ........... 65 ........... $49,350,000 ........... Ultimate Fighting Championship

11 of the demoting teams come from the bottom half of the avg player value rankings.

Correlation in a GLB generation when we view average player value as a rather useless metric at this level?

3 of the top4 demoted

The two teams in the 'ship game are 14th and 15th

The team in 30th was a #1 seed

You can make statistics say anything you want

Just was something I noticed and thought was deserving of a thread (what else do we talk about in here?)


And not to try and smith the OP into truth but rather to to be fair, South Otto is one of the best teams in terms of coordinating in WL right now. Duckies and Doof are RNG champions (although I'd argue that RNG has had a significant impact in the last 10+ WL playoffs). They're obviously good teams but even they know they aren't pound for pound the best teams. You could likewise say that BDS just fell apart. They started off really strong and just bombed at season's end.

I'd also argue that Sunday Funday/VDA/etc had some coordinator burnout which really hurt them. Speaking from experience, it's tough to keep the season after season motivation with WL being such a grind. I think that hit the otherwise top teams in terms of build quality.

lol RNG champions ^

We were about 20 points higher two seasons ago but made some roster upgrades sooooo...

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
Duckies and Doof are RNG champions (although I'd argue that RNG has had a significant impact in the last 10+ WL playoffs). They're obviously good teams but even they know they aren't pound for pound the best teams.


I honestly would have expected more from you.

If you can take the 30th team and make them a #1 seed with coordination, doesn't that only serve to support the argument that average player values matter less than ever?

I think one of the main points against average player value is that you can't see aeq. Take away the bottom two and you got 30 teams within an average of 80 SP, hell the vast majority are within 50 points of each other. It's perfectly feasible to assume that the lower value teams have more 4 aeq players than the higher value teams, and that this in fact accounts for the difference in average player value.

Most people now favor the balance of a 3 aeq dot, but you can make strong arguments about 4 aeq players being better. PV doesn't care about that though. There are some teams out there with rosters of 2 aeq players too, obviously their PV with well built dots are higher than 3 or 4 aeq, but does that make them better? Nearly everyone would say no.

We haven't really seen a team with builds that blow the rest out of the water since Taut had those 1450+ 4 aeq dots. And it's doubtful we'll ever see such a difference again unless the current build model changes.

Saying builds or PV doesn't matter is obviously redundant, but builds in general are closer than ever before so they make less of a difference.

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
Duckies and Doof are RNG champions (although I'd argue that RNG has had a significant impact in the last 10+ WL playoffs).

No game is broken threads.

Originally posted by TruthHammer

I honestly would have expected more from you.

You got to play two 8-8 teams out of your three games en route to the WL championship. The team you played in the conference championship game lost to the 14th place team in their respective conference during the season. How is that not a dream?

The Duckies at least beat South Otto + Odessa. All the longtime WL teams have been kicking themselves in their team/private forums for losing in a season where the early playoff results left one of the easier paths to the champ game we've seen.

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
You got to play two 8-8 teams out of your three games en route to the WL championship. How is that not a dream?

The Duckies at least beat South Otto + Odessa. All the longtime WL teams have been kicking themselves in there team/private forums for losing in a season where the early playoff results left one of the easier paths to the champ game we've seen.

The first 8-8 team we played because we earned it in the regular season. The other 8-8 team knocked out Graz and SSM. Was it a dream for them? You can't possibly be that stupid.

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
All the longtime WL teams have been kicking themselves in their team/private forums for losing in a season where the early playoff results left one of the easier paths to the champ game we've seen.

Cox and Shockers in round 2 and round 3 is an easier path than you usually have to the championship game? I think you are being more than a little disrespectful to both those teams. Cox has been in the WL final two seasons in a row since they promoted and not sure I need to list DS achievements in the WL

Originally posted by Golan
Cox and Shockers in round 2 and round 3 is an easier path than you usually have to the championship game? I think you are being more than a little disrespectful to both those teams. Cox has been in the WL final two seasons in a row since they promoted and not sure I need to list DS achievements in the WL



http://goallineblitz.com/game/playoff_bracket.pl?league_id=280&conference_id=0

I think Romo is saying that the money was on Cincy vs Hood and Asau vs Odessa. Now people have woken up to the newer teams that sit at the top. Nobody said that the Cox vs Cincy game would be easy. Cincy expected to beat Doof. Asau and Odessa expected to win their round 2 games. That is the summary of what was said, IMO.

Originally posted by TruthHammer
I honestly would have expected more from you.
Why? You guys had never even made the WL playoffs before, you didn't win Pro gold last season, and the only time you ever won Pro gold was in s29. Ghuffman is a beast, so you have that going for you, but otherwise it's completely unexplainable. You don't have the best dots, your offense is bad, and you have no history of success. Similar things can be said about the Duckies. Then South Otto is a good team, but there's no obvious explanation for them being a #1 seed. Republic of Benin being a #2 is even more bizarre. It's fair to say that this WL season was really, really strange. The cold hard reality is that even trying in the playoffs is too much effort for the old guard these days. You might not want to believe that's true, but it is. I'm not singling you guys out, as I've said that lower cares played a part in me getting my WL trophies, and cares are obviously even lower now.

As for the OP, there's only a 5% difference between #1 and #30. There's obviously still a weak correlation between player value and success within this group, but most are at roughly the same level now. I imagine it would also be more predictive to use blackrock's measure that includes AEQ value.

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
You got to play two 8-8 teams out of your three games en route to the WL championship. The team you played in the conference championship game lost to the 14th place team in their respective conference during the season. How is that not a dream?

The Duckies at least beat South Otto + Odessa. All the longtime WL teams have been kicking themselves in their team/private forums for losing in a season where the early playoff results left one of the easier paths to the champ game we've seen.

tbh as soon as I saw Graz lost we and we had beaten HHWC. We just assumed another final berth was on the way. I didn't even take the time to look at Doof, I should have so I could have just flared the DE out to the flat every time vs blocking TE and we would have held them to about 10 points. We didn't expect to throw 6 ints and have a fumble everytime we just stomped down the field.

Congrats to the new guys but none of the stalwarts really even paid attention to you. Even when this season is completed I don't think any of us will pay any more attention and just chalk it up as a fluke.

Also, Odessa scored on a pick 6 and a FF on punt. We pretty much dominated them. RNG. Lmao. Maybe next time these fools will turn on their AIs when they see us on their schedule. If you have zero cares in the WL playoffs, you deserve to cheer from the sidelines because you're an idiot or a liar. And as far as the Duckies are concerned, I warned WL and all of GLB we were coming this season. I publicly made mention our goal was 9-7 in the regular season. We'll be here next season to show you cocky mofo's again too. #rubberduckdynasty bitches.