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After 10+ seasons, I've decided to finally post my failsafe guide. I know I posted one earlier when I won the championship, but I've decided it's outdated. So here's a new one:

Step 1: Boost, buy CE, or both
Step 2: Enjoy your free wins that you did nothing to deserve
Step 3: Lament that no one plays pee wee anymore and wonder why more people don't just pay more $$$ so you have competition. Rather than, you know, going No/No yourself. Because 20 other people forking over cash makes a lot more sense than 12 people not doing so.
Edited by awsalick on Dec 31, 2012 15:39:52
 
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Originally posted by awsalick
After 10+ seasons, I've decided to finally post my failsafe guide. I know I posted one earlier when I won the championship, but I've decided it's outdated. So here's a new one:

Step 1: Boost, buy CE, or both
Step 2: Enjoy your free wins that you did nothing to deserve
Step 3: Lament that no one plays pee wee anymore and wonder why more people don't just pay more $$$ so you have competition. Rather than, you know, going No/No yourself. Because 20 other people forking over cash makes a lot more sense than 12 people not doing so.



All boosting does is allow you to explore a builds 3rd or 4th attribute more so than a team that is unboosted. You can take the 15 points and put it into say jumping for a Wr or catching for a Cb. Other than that there isn't much advantage. If anything you should be happy more teams remain unboosted and beat boosted teams. I've lost twice today to Buffalo testing passing so you just can't plug plays in and expect a win because of being boosted. The boosted team still has to game plan.
 
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Originally posted by LordEvil

All boosting does is allow you to explore a builds 3rd or 4th attribute more so than a team that is unboosted. You can take the 15 points and put it into say jumping for a Wr or catching for a Cb. Other than that there isn't much advantage. If anything you should be happy more teams remain unboosted and beat boosted teams. I've lost twice today to Buffalo testing passing so you just can't plug plays in and expect a win because of being boosted. The boosted team still has to game plan.


Boosting gives you 18 SPs + 3x*ALG (on a 4 major dot, worth ~3*3.5 = ~10.5 generally, more if done at the end of the season.) That's 28.5 points. Furthermore, it gives you those points early, so it doesn't let you explore a builds 3-4th attribute. Rather, it accelerates your building so you are capping those 1st/2nd/3rd attributes a lot faster than a nonbooster. That's why nonboosters suck ass early on in comparison. They haven't even touched the 2nd attribute when a booster has already started capping it.

CE gives those points straight into your primary. Well, unless you're an idiot.

It's always the boosters that say boosting doesn't give you an advantage. A simple philosophical question :if boosting is so pointless, then why boost? I would argue your flex is much better wasted taking high level dots to WL than giving yourself a competitive advantage in pee wee.
Edited by awsalick on Dec 31, 2012 16:38:30
 
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Most everyone I know puts their boosts into their main. Yes it allows you to win games early, but later in the season it isn't that much of a difference. By game 1 of the regular season you are just putting those boosted points into your main. Once spent by game 1 your main is at 50 (without EQ) This is the only advantage, By late season around level 10 there isn't that much of a difference. Boosted teams can focus on jumping stamina, confidence or whatever, unboosted teams have to focus on their 2nd and 3rd.

You only complain when you lose. You played a very good defense who is ranked #1 in the league. I haven't looked at what he is doing on defense but it must be something good. I don't buy boosted teams have a great advantage. It's a small advantage to me time wise. Against the lesser teams I don't have to game plan at all. That's my advantage. I know my AI and builds will be enough.

There are ways to over compensate for playing boosted teams You and Gerr both won championships or come close with unboosted teams many seasons now so no one is buying what your selling about it being such an advantage. I boost because I like 70/50/50/30/20 instead of 70/40/40/25/20.
Subversive is winning with exploits on defense, Jungle Studs are winning with 4 wide all game long. Buffalo wins with high 2nd attributes and a dozen Strong Safeties. GTS wins with copying FGC
Anyways good discussion but your championship and Gerrs begs to differ from what your saying
 
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I only complain when I lose to a boosted or CE team. I'm fine losing to a No/No and gg them when I do.

Playoffs consist of 2-3 out of 18-19 games. Don't see why 90% of the season has to be absolutely shit just because "boosters catch up".

Even then, I'd argue if boosters knew how to fucking build, they wouldn't be getting beat in the playoffs by No/No. Simple evidence of that is that all the boosters boost day 1 and not 31, which costs ~3 SPs off the end build. Seriously, if they're not doing something so fucking obvious as that, they're probably missing out on the other things you can do to squeeze another 4 or 5 SPs out of it.
 
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Thought that defense looked familiar (While watching your game)
AI just copied Gerrs defense, I knew I saw that defense before. Looks like with just a couple of positions out of place by a step it's the exact same defense as AZ Cardz

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2236294&pbp_id=5896650

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2236271&pbp_id=5186568

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2248247&pbp_id=5729115

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2236294&pbp_id=5896705

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2248247&pbp_id=5728217

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2236294&pbp_id=5901928
 
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Originally posted by awsalick
I only complain when I lose to a boosted or CE team. I'm fine losing to a No/No and gg them when I do.

Playoffs consist of 2-3 out of 18-19 games. Don't see why 90% of the season has to be absolutely shit just because "boosters catch up".

Even then, I'd argue if boosters knew how to fucking build, they wouldn't be getting beat in the playoffs by No/No. Simple evidence of that is that all the boosters boost day 1 and not 31, which costs ~3 SPs off the end build. Seriously, if they're not doing something so fucking obvious as that, they're probably missing out on the other things you can do to squeeze another 4 or 5 SPs out of it.


Maybe some of us are not math geeks and enjoy the game of football. I don't sit there and try and make the perfect build by squeezing this or that. I just like the game of football. That's what is really wrong with this game is it caters to a math aspect of the game when it comes to builds. That's why I loved before season 16 era. You only had 2 ways to build. No math BS in the mix. Back then boosted teams would really pound unboosted teams. At least now you have a chance, back then you had a 1 in 1000 chance at beating a good boosted team with or without game planning.
 
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I think that 1st play linked works well if the LDE doesn't pancake the OT. Which is due to the CE. My OL had 0 pancakes all game; he had 18. :O I averaged 0.6 YPC and he had 4.2, and most of that is power runs on both sides. Hence the rant.
 
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Originally posted by LordEvil
Maybe some of us are not math geeks and enjoy the game of football. I don't sit there and try and make the perfect build by squeezing this or that. I just like the game of football. That's what is really wrong with this game is it caters to a math aspect of the game when it comes to builds. That's why I loved before season 16 era. You only had 2 ways to build. No math BS in the mix. Back then boosted teams would really pound unboosted teams. At least now you have a chance, back then you had a 1 in 1000 chance at beating a good boosted team with or without game planning.


Says the dude with an excel script to calculate power rankings.

Honestly though, it's not math. It's just.... logic. And there's nothing wrong with being a math geek. Someone winning a game because they are smarter is a lot more fair than someone winning a game because they gave Bort a wad of cash.
 
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Originally posted by awsalick
I think that 1st play linked works well if the LDE doesn't pancake the OT. Which is due to the CE. My OL had 0 pancakes all game; he had 18. :O I averaged 0.6 YPC and he had 4.2, and most of that is power runs on both sides. Hence the rant.


I be pissed more at the stupid counter plays. I hate those. Those are just luck of the draw. That is what really won the game for them.

The excel script was just an old rendition of fantasy football program I made back in the 90s. Its a few buttons. Not much for me to calculate...lol

I always knew you were great with sqeazing numbers, that is why I wanted you to join us on Chicago when I was there. Your builds and help we wouldn't of lost many games. Gerr and I just started figuring out how to build decent dots. You could of got us there much quicker. SBWL will be a no/no team next season. I only have custom on a few players. I wanted to try one season boosted just to see how far I could get solo. Speed and strength is overrate by seasons end IMO.
 
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Originally posted by LordEvil
I be pissed more at the stupid counter plays. I hate those. Those are just luck of the draw. That is what really won the game for them.


Yeah, I have all my counters in my "cross your fingers" offensive package. Because they take so long to develop, it gives OL/DL strength a lot of time to work. They're a huge liability vs a team with higher strength than you (which is anyone with CE.)
 
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Originally posted by LordEvil
. I wanted to try one season boosted just to see how far I could get solo. Speed and strength is overrate by seasons end IMO.


In my opinion, No/No vs Yes/Yes you NEED to have more speed than normal to counter the opponent's speed from CE. If you don't, if a WR/TE gets open, they'll outrun you and all the 5 yard passes become 80 yarders. I used to single cap speed on my entire secondary and I'd get gashed hard. Maybe things have changed with fakes occurring less frequently now. Not sure I want to waste a season experimenting with that, though.
 
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When we would play Chicago vs AZ we had 88-90 speed WRs and TEs vs 70 speed Cbs/Fs/SS and the Dbs hung with the Wrs/TEs just fine
DTs and DEs with 65 or so in strength could beat 85-90 strength OL

Fakes are non existent in the lower leagues now it seems.
 
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Originally posted by awsalick
After 10+ seasons, I've decided to finally post my failsafe guide. I know I posted one earlier when I won the championship, but I've decided it's outdated. So here's a new one:

Step 1: Boost, buy CE, or both
Step 2: Enjoy your free wins that you did nothing to deserve
Step 3: Lament that no one plays pee wee anymore and wonder why more people don't just pay more $$$ so you have competition. Rather than, you know, going No/No yourself. Because 20 other people forking over cash makes a lot more sense than 12 people not doing so.


You forgot option B which is to demote yourself into copper.
 
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Originally posted by Oakdad
You forgot option B which is to demote yourself into copper.


...since when would that be an option for a competitive league? ...then maybe he could do what I have done before and deliberately lose in the silver playoffs so that his team doesn't get promoted to gold, and what sort of existence would that be in peewee? ...maybe you just fail to notice what he is expressing? ...btw I think i love you awsalick for posting this thread
 
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