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.spider.
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Ran the AI tester on all 5 and it comes up with

Matching Input
Input Named: RedZone 3rd and Long

Possible Outputs
100% RedZone 3rd and Long (Package: RedZone 3rd and Long)

What's inside that package you may ask? Well I'll tell you, 4 passes LOL
Edited by Mike Rogers on May 31, 2012 10:20:15 (Not a Bug... but looking to see if possible to improve)
 
CDZYO
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Huh. I didn't know a QB kneel could be called outside of the two-minute warning, sort of like how a punt only can be called on fourth down. lolGLB.
 
jamz
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This could have cost them a trip to the WL not cool Burt
 
Mike Rogers
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Shoot me GM access, I'll take a look see if I can find the issue.


 
.spider.
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Originally posted by Mike Rogers
Shoot me GM access, I'll take a look see if I can find the issue.




I cant, awaiting wsdp
 
evileyez
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this puts the qb decision making on a whole other level >_>
 
Mike Rogers
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alrighty.

Can you or EE copy that AI and Put BUG in the title... before anything is changed, etc.
(If he isnt around often copy it to a team where I can get access to it.)

Mean time I suggest you start looking at any All QTR, 3rd Down Red Zone inputs... something has most likely gone wrong there.
 
TruthHammer
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Shoot me a PM if you need another set of eyes, Mike.
 
evileyez
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wsdp is around every night. think its best we just keep everything as is
 
.spider.
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Originally posted by evileyez
wsdp is around every night. think its best we just keep everything as is


Or I can copy the AI and Package in question cuz I might plan tonight if I'm feeling up to it. I'll leave it as is for now, I usually end up falling asleep cuz I'm a massive procrastinator
 
Mike Rogers
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Keep the original exactly as was for that game, if you need to make changes to the AI, copy it and edit the copy.
 
GroovyCheetah
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Spider doesn't get things wrong its a bug imo
 
wsdp
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hi, I'm here now, shooting you access Mike.
 
Mike Rogers
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Thanks.

Checking Now.
 
Mike Rogers
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OK,

The Actual Tester Result are these

Matching Input
Input Named: RedZone 3rd and Long

Possible Outputs
100% Scout 3rd and 6+ (Package: Scout 3rd and 6+ v29.1)


This is different to what spider states in OP, btw.

The very Top Input "RedZone 3rd and Long" that it refers to has got the QB Kneel play selected from the Drop down menu option, but has a Package selected "Over the Top of it".
If you open that output, click the package and select clear, you will see the QB Kneel command hiding.

Even so the package should fire, the only reason it wouldn't is if the Package cannot be accessed by the team, OR the package is blank.

I then noticed that Packages with the name (Package: Scout 3rd and 6+ v29.1) exsist in both the Team and GM locations.

I have copied the GM owned Package to the Team Location so I can view it, its now the bottom Package on the teams location and I extended the name to Scout 3rd and 6+ v29.1 BUG MOD COPY MR

This Package is Indeed Blank.

I then Editted the Name of the Team Owned Package to the following Scout 3rd and 6+ v29.1 ORIGINAL

Checking the name of the package used in your active AI for that game it is clearly the GM Owned Package.

As your AI links to a Blank Package, it will keep searching down through the inputs for a best match.
The AI Tester result for Test and Show Unmatched indicate the is no further possible option to be called.


Under these unique circumstances, it has no choice but to default to the drop down menus "underneath it", if there is no input benath which can fire.


The QB Kneel play is therefore correctly called.


I have however brought this to Catch and Bort's attention, as despite it being user error (Sorry guys) if it can be fixed, it should be, as this isn't a great last resort.
However there are about 5 get out clauses already built into the system to avoid this, you just seem to have slipped through the gaps.

Will update if any improvements are possible.

PMs sent to all involved (EE, spider, ws etc)
Edited by Mike Rogers on May 30, 2012 21:32:34
Edited by Mike Rogers on May 30, 2012 21:10:38
Edited by Mike Rogers on May 30, 2012 21:05:25
 
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