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I noticed that the HB on this O formation almost always tries to "help" block the RDE while the LOT/LG will just stay for like a tick to block the RDE then move out to block outside leaving the HB to be 'caked by the RDE.

HB blocks the ROLB and the RDE contained(??) a bit by the LOT/LG then leaves him (why??)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1698826&pbp_id=906677
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1654587&pbp_id=797679

HB blocks the RDE and LOT/LG tries to block the ROLB (or MLB)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1698826&pbp_id=915261
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1698826&pbp_id=916181
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1654951&pbp_id=978961
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1698822&pbp_id=1506249
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1698822&pbp_id=1507009

HB blocks FS downfield while LOT/LG blocks(??) the RDE but they let them (RDE not even caked)thru because they went on to block the FS (why??)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1654587&pbp_id=797070

HB blocks the RDE together with the LOT then the LOT leaves the HB to be pancaked to block the CB.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1654597&pbp_id=1863293

HB blocks the RDE and LOT/LG blocks who???
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1657567&pbp_id=989836

Who are the LOT/LG blocking? Both of them blocking the RDE then leaves him to block who?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1699759&pbp_id=1446587

LOT/LG/HB blocks no one
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1654597&pbp_id=1863344


This one looks good... maybe...
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1654592&pbp_id=1326958 - inside blitzing so the LOT/LG stays for a tick or two then goes out to block outside anyone outside.

NOTE:
By the way, watch the TE. He looks either he blocks nobody or he just floats to the weak side.

On this:
"HB blocks FS downfield while LOT/LG blocks(??) the RDE but they let them (RDE not even caked)thru because they went on to block the FS (why??)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1654587&pbp_id=797070
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It looks like it's working as intended. It's a screen so the blockers on the left side pull, sucking the RDE in so he's out of the play. They didn't bother with the FS till after the HB got pancaked. Looked like the LT was too slow to adjust to the corner.

Just looking at several of the plays it looks like this is what is happening. Note i didn't look at all the plays but they were all turning out about the same.

The HB, LT and LG are all forming the screen for the FB. The LT/LG may be initially forming a pocket due to the RDE, once the HB see's him unblocked (because he is moving so much faster than the LT/LG) that he takes the RDE out of the "must be blocked" list and they resume heading to form the screen.

The variations in what they do is probably based on vision where they are having to make the decision on whether they have time to form the pocket or have to stay and stop a blitzer before he hits the QB.

But you missed the point here, the LOT/LG left the RDE after "blocking" him. They should at least hold him for a tick or two before leaving him (suckering him in) to block outside and not give him almost like free access to the QB.

And why should the HB come back in to help block the RDE when I think his role is block anyone further outside of the LOT/LG pull screen.

Originally posted by alindyl
On this:
"HB blocks FS downfield while LOT/LG blocks(??) the RDE but they let them (RDE not even caked)thru because they went on to block the FS (why??)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1654587&pbp_id=797070
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It looks like it's working as intended. It's a screen so the blockers on the left side pull, sucking the RDE in so he's out of the play. They didn't bother with the FS till after the HB got pancaked. Looked like the LT was too slow to adjust to the corner.

Just looking at several of the plays it looks like this is what is happening. Note i didn't look at all the plays but they were all turning out about the same.

The HB, LT and LG are all forming the screen for the FB. The LT/LG may be initially forming a pocket due to the RDE, once the HB see's him unblocked (because he is moving so much faster than the LT/LG) that he takes the RDE out of the "must be blocked" list and they resume heading to form the screen.

The variations in what they do is probably based on vision where they are having to make the decision on whether they have time to form the pocket or have to stay and stop a blitzer before he hits the QB.

LOT on this play has 70 speed, 102 agility and 69 vision.

Originally posted by jdpbernal
But you missed the point here, the LOT/LG left the RDE after "blocking" him. They should at least hold him for a tick or two before leaving him (suckering him in) to block outside and not give him almost like free access to the QB.

And why should the HB come back in to help block the RDE when I think his role is block anyone further outside of the LOT/LG pull screen.



So you're asking why the HB is blocking the RDE while the LT & LG just stand there. So then nobody (should have been the HB) blocks the ROLB who makes a tackle for a loss. Is that correct?

Originally posted by PING72
So you're asking why the HB is blocking the RDE while the LT & LG just stand there. So then nobody (should have been the HB) blocks the ROLB who makes a tackle for a loss. Is that correct?

My thoughts is that the HB will block the ROLB and the LOT/LG will block the RDE for a tick or two then move out.
If you look at the play the HB runs outside the routes taken by the LOT/LG so I suspect he is supposed to block guys that are further outside and not run inside to block the RDE. Get it?

If it is working as intended then I'll just shut up.

The LT/LG in the play diagram are pulling here. They put a little block on what's in front of them and then move out as instructed. The HB is then going to pick up whatever he believes is most dangerous, and you can't sack a QB on a screen.

NOT LIKELY A BUG

Originally posted by Androth
The LT/LG in the play diagram are pulling here. They put a little block on what's in front of them and then move out as instructed. The HB is then going to pick up whatever he believes is most dangerous.

Agreed.

I agree that the play design must show the LT and LG as lead blockers for the screen so they natural chip block and head onto their priority assignment which is getting out ahead of the HB to block when the catch is made.

I can't verify this because I cannot find a link to the play layout. It's not shown in the link you can get to from Defensive AI's.

Here is the directory I am searching..

http://goallineblitz.com/offense_plays.html

This what you're looking for? http://goallineblitz.com/images/plays/292.gif

That link you posted is an old, static list of plays. Have to go through an offensive playbook to grab them, including new plays. They probably have to manually add plays to that to make them available

Originally posted by Pwned IRL
Here is the directory I am searching..

http://goallineblitz.com/offense_plays.html

Try http://goallineblitz.com/game/offense_play_list.pl

Yea based on those links supplied I agree that these players in all of the links shown are chip blocking before heading out ahead of the soon to be receiver setting up what is called the "screen"..

I don't think there is a bug here.

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