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WR2 acting very strange in ignoring the CB on this play

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1638039&pbp_id=2483829

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1638039&pbp_id=2486767

As I understand it, a blockers first responsibility is to the inside man, and because of where the SS is lined up on this play I believe he is forced to choose the SS over the CB. However, I am only sure about the inside first rule for lineman. I'll try to find some verification on this before calling it something.

I pasted this because you'll notice without the SS standing there the WR blocks the CB.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1637527&pbp_id=1325295

It has to do with the positioning of the SS and his proximity to the LOS.

Originally posted by bug03
It has to do with the positioning of the SS and his proximity to the LOS.

although you would think that with the play called and where the FB and TE are supposed to block that

WR would have CB
TE would have SS
FB would have OLB

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
although you would think that with the play called and where the FB and TE are supposed to block that

WR would have CB
TE would have SS
FB would have OLB

It's why I put the lde in a zone and blitz the ss... good shit ensues

Originally posted by cwrujosh
WR2 acting very strange in ignoring the CB on this play

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1638039&pbp_id=2483829

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1638039&pbp_id=2486767

I'm not sure this is working as intended. There are 3 men for 3 men to block, and if we can find that they don't at least sometimes figure out how to block the three then we likely do have a bug. 2 Replays is right on the edge for making a determination, if there was any way to find a 3rd one fast, I would personally vote this a bug right now.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
although you would think that with the play called and where the FB and TE are supposed to block that

WR would have CB
TE would have SS
FB would have OLB

I agree, this might need looked into if we find that it's too consistently played out this way.

You would think that the WRs first priority in any run/pass game would be to take his man (CB) out of the play. But like Pwned said we need to find another play or two but this very well could be an issue if it happens frequently.

Happens all the time to be quite honest with just about all formations. Most good defenses simply place the safeties to the inside of the WR because on all sweeps and pitches the WR will go after the Safety every time and leave the CB sitting there waiting.

Originally posted by whodey08
Happens all the time to be quite honest with just about all formations. Most good defenses simply place the safeties to the inside of the WR because on all sweeps and pitches the WR will go after the Safety every time and leave the CB sitting there waiting.



If that's the case we should see no problem to get plenty of links in here..

Originally posted by Pwned IRL
If that's the case we should see no problem to get plenty of links in here..

Here's another, it's particularly bad:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1638442&pbp_id=3032570

Another:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1638442&pbp_id=3033528

Ok, I don't think this is a bug. Some of these are different pro-set plays versus the same setup. The WL ones are the same play vs the same kind of D. I found many of these where the WR picked the SS instead of the CB first. Almost all of them involved the SS blitzing. The WR is going to pick the defender who is most dangerous to the ball carrier. That is generally the closer man.

Best Example
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1638164&pbp_id=2343426

In these two, you are wishing the WR was blocking SS instead of the CB.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1638442&pbp_id=3034192
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1638442&pbp_id=3037078

WL Teams
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1637458&pbp_id=612888
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1637237&pbp_id=897065
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1637860&pbp_id=1835665

NOT LIKELY A BUG

This is a fairly simple concept - when run blocking, your first priority is to block the guy DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF YOU. This is probably the most basic principle there is.

Also, this is for HB SWEEP. You are highlighting THE WRONG PLAY with the QB sweeps.

And in the later examples, he's doing it right, and that's right, but that doesn't explain why it's wrong in the other examples.

Originally posted by Androth

WL Teams
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1637458&pbp_id=612888
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1637237&pbp_id=897065
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1637860&pbp_id=1835665
NOT LIKELY A BUG

Based on these three replays of it occuring correctly..

I'm now thinking it has to do with how far in/out the SS is from the WR at play start. It also has to do with how the CB reacts to the play, because in the WL links, the CB's are reacting faster and it almost makes the OP links look as if the CB hesitant decision making, is making the WR look to the SS for his blocking assignment..

My decision is still TBD, I need to do some more thinking and evaluating.

Originally posted by cwrujosh
This is a fairly simple concept - when run blocking, your first priority is to block the guy DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF YOU. This is probably the most basic principle there is.

Also, this is for HB SWEEP. You are highlighting THE WRONG PLAY with the QB sweeps.

And in the later examples, he's doing it right, and that's right, but that doesn't explain why it's wrong in the other examples.

Because I was being thorough. I explained that the first few were a different play, but the same defense. There were questions that needed answering "does this always happen?" "Is it just one play?".

Players will not get things right 100% of the time. That is how the game was designed. If everyone had perfect players there would be no point in building them.