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As far as I can remember you told us that with the morale changes a HB donīt use morale when he breaks a tackle.

Take a look here, HB starts with 99 morale, breaks 2 tackles and has 97 morale
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1531775&pbp_id=3268267

I have access to both teams, no one on the Defense has any morale draining SA, so the morale loss is coming from the broken tackles. When watching the replay you can see that he lose 1 point morale right after each broken tackle.

Just an example, Iīm to lazy at the moment to search for more.
Edited by RMiller517 on Feb 8, 2011 21:32:51
Edited by Androth on Jan 29, 2011 11:08:26 (NOT LIKELY A BUG)
 
Tobysmith6922
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I may be wrong, but I always thought that SAs can fire, even if they have zero points put into them.
So, when the LB hit him, but missed the tackle, Snarl could of fired?
 
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Originally posted by Disastermaster
As far as I can remember you told us that with the morale changes a HB donīt use morale when he breaks a tackle.

Take a look here, HB starts with 99 morale, breaks 2 tackles and has 97 morale
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1531775&pbp_id=3268267

I have access to both teams, no one on the Defense has any morale draining SA, so the morale loss is coming from the broken tackles. When watching the replay you can see that he lose 1 point morale right after each broken tackle.

Just an example, Iīm to lazy at the moment to search for more.


This happens with broken tackles, I remember stobie got an answer for Bort back in the day because we suspected Bt's were causing offensive morale loss.
 
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Wait so his morale went down after breaking 3 tackles on the way for a big TD?
 
Achelon
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What if he thought since he had to break the tackles, that his blockers weren't trying hard enough, and thus his morale went down.
Edited by CrimsonNinja on Jan 29, 2011 08:51:13
 
Androth
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I went through two entire games of my own teams replays and didn't find a single instance of the HB losing morale when breaking a tackle. Here is one with 3 broken tackles. I'm aware you can't see the morale, but I can't see yours either!

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1524560&pbp_id=4946202

I'm going to have to say this is NOT LIKELY A BUG
 
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Originally posted by Androth
I went through two entire games of my own teams replays and didn't find a single instance of the HB losing morale when breaking a tackle. Here is one with 3 broken tackles. I'm aware you can't see the morale, but I can't see yours either!

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1524560&pbp_id=4946202

I'm going to have to say this is NOT LIKELY A BUG


ok, than let me know why the HB is losing morale when no one on the other team has morale draining SA?

I will pm the owner of Charles Darwin to send you a gm invite so you could see the morale of the HB
 
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I was given GM access. The first two missed tackles did not cause a morale loss, he then loses 1 morale sometime after the second tackler misses and then loses 1 more morale when the FS fails to tackle him.

I can't see the FS build, but it looks like Growl + Big Hit to me. The question of whether a VA can trigger with 0 points is a possibility. I still stand by the fact that I don't think this is a bug, but it takes 2 more people to determine that either way.

The information you provided should be useful in others making that determination. Thank you.
 
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FS build is open http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1996387
 
Androth
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http://home.everestkc.net/zilch/DisaFS.jpg

Alright, important parts are copied, you can close up his build if it matters to you.
 
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Have there been any other instances of this happening?
 
Talcion
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I'd like to know what the Confidence of the HB would help as well

I've seen it many times from my HB's who break tackles with low confidence that their Morale drops a tick or two.
 
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Originally posted by Talcion
I'd like to know what the Confidence of the HB would help as well

I've seen it many times from my HB's who break tackles with low confidence that their Morale drops a tick or two.


What would you call low morale at the pro level?
 
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Originally posted by Dr. E
Originally posted by Talcion

I'd like to know what the Confidence of the HB would help as well

I've seen it many times from my HB's who break tackles with low confidence that their Morale drops a tick or two.


What would you call low morale at the pro level?


At Pro 48 would be low... Should be near 60 for a lot of positions
 
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I agree with the initial classification. There are so many morale-related things out there that any one of them could have been the cause of it, and there just isn't enough evidence to support that it is broken.
 
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