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zmj44
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I feel like its a waste at this point...I've made countless suggestions in the past and all you guys do is ignore them until you lose a game because of it...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4488739

now...
 
juiceweezl
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I looked at like the first 10 plays, and it looks to me like you should cover the HB. I'm not a DC though. I know on my higher level teams, that crap is tough to complete because they cover the back.
 
zmj44
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Originally posted by juiceweezl
I looked at like the first 10 plays, and it looks to me like you should cover the HB. I'm not a DC though. I know on my higher level teams, that crap is tough to complete because they cover the back.


Yeah I can tell that your not a DC because on all of those plays from PNP the HB is double covered.
 
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Originally posted by zmj44
Yeah I can tell that your not a DC because on all of those plays from PNP the HB is double covered.


I saw the guys flinch at the HB and then nothing. Like you said though, I don't speak defense -- just holes in defense. That's why I didn't -1 it. I'll have MG and Fu take a peek though. If they agree, then +1's from all of us.
 
crims
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Let just take the first play. You say the HB is double covered.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1555842&pbp_id=4746025

I would have to say the LOLB and the safety are who your talking about. So both there first reads are HB? if so the Safety doesn't

move at all and the LOLB doesn't react fast enough. One thing I noticed ( didn't get to see all the replays ) Its the same LOLB

and the Safety in the first couple of plays running the same D.
 
zmj44
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Originally posted by crims
Let just take the first play. You say the HB is double covered.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1555842&pbp_id=4746025

I would have to say the LOLB and the safety are who your talking about. So both there first reads are HB? if so the Safety doesn't

move at all and the LOLB doesn't react fast enough. One thing I noticed ( didn't get to see all the replays ) Its the same LOLB

and the Safety in the first couple of plays running the same D.


Safety is in a zone...but he is there solely to defend the flanker drag...and it doesn't help at all...
the OLB ALONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DEFEND A HB...that is my point...but even with double coverage its impossible...
 
ManOgwaR
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this is peewee so builds are not going to have the desired effect to some extent ...it could still be covered, but if your safeties are speedies, then that could create an imbalance in build which could be fail for spying and reacting to the HB receive ...same would apply for the LOLB imo ...working as intended
 
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Originally posted by crims
Let just take the first play. You say the HB is double covered.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1555842&pbp_id=4746025

I would have to say the LOLB and the safety are who your talking about. So both there first reads are HB? if so the Safety doesn't

move at all and the LOLB doesn't react fast enough. One thing I noticed ( didn't get to see all the replays ) Its the same LOLB

and the Safety in the first couple of plays running the same D.


While my defense isn't up to par this season as I am frequently making adjustments trying to learn this new DPC, what I see here is a SS that is in too shallow of a zone and also appears to have too low of Vision as they obviously missed the initial vision check which let the HB by. The LOLB just got hit by the bug where the LB's are not playing tight coverage on those coming out of the backfield, so maybe a change in his tactics to play it safe and try to stay above the HB might be something to try?
 
zmj44
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There should not be exploits...i don't understand how everybody could be so stupid...

Gerr, there are ways to stop it...but are you legitimately willing to double cover a HB? you shouldn't be forced to do that...
 
LordEvil
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ZM, love ya man but those are not exploits. You can play defenders deeper. You can overload one side. It's more of a game of chess. You the DC shouldn't be allowed to stop EVERYTHING....lol
 
Gerr
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Originally posted by zmj44
There should not be exploits...i don't understand how everybody could be so stupid...

Gerr, there are ways to stop it...but are you legitimately willing to double cover a HB? you shouldn't be forced to do that...


This is an ever changing sim, so yes, you have to adapt to stay on top, even if it means double covering a HB.
 
zmj44
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Originally posted by LordEvil
ZM, love ya man but those are not exploits. You can play defenders deeper. You can overload one side. It's more of a game of chess. You the DC shouldn't be allowed to stop EVERYTHING....lol


Yeah im aware check out the pnp lolscrim from this morning...

Originally posted by Gerr
This is an ever changing sim, so yes, you have to adapt to stay on top, even if it means double covering a HB.


Adapt yes...but you should not be forced to do something to stay competitive...
 
LordEvil
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Why not ZM, I am forced to run more because this sorry sim sucks.
 
crims
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Originally posted by Gerr
This is an ever changing sim, so yes, you have to adapt to stay on top, even if it means double covering a HB.


Well said. I have been a DC since Season 9. Some offense plays work last season that don't work this season. It also changes during the season as the builds get better. I would say its more the builds. Low Agility Low vision maybe.
 
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Originally posted by crims
I would say its more the builds. Low Agility Low vision maybe.

and this is what I mean by the quest for speed in peewee leading to an imbalance ...you can't have it all in peewee! ...if you want speedies, then you have to sacrifice other attribs= agi/vis ...but if you want high vision/agility, then this could lead to other ineficiencies, such as not being able to keep up with the dots that you are trying to cover ...but a good DC could make some adjustments to cater for this

Edited by ManOgwaR on Jan 30, 2011 02:46:44
Edited by ManOgwaR on Jan 30, 2011 02:45:09
 
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