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lshue
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Much like the screen passes a couple seasons ago passes from the QB to receivers who run a curl or comeback route, the pass is almost always thrown low.

If examples are needed, I'll post some but I hope this can be noticed easily from just watching games throughout the leagues.
Edited by VolBrian on Jan 20, 2011 10:17:07 (Info not provided - closed)
Edited by Pwned IRL on Jan 19, 2011 21:44:27 (Edited title to VERIFIED)
Edited by TruthHammer on Jan 18, 2011 15:32:35 (Not likely a bug - lack of new info)
Edited by TruthHammer on Jan 13, 2011 11:21:33 (Added File #)
Edited by VolBrian on Dec 15, 2010 08:30:53 (Needs more info)
 
VolBrian
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You will need to post quite a few examples along with attributes of the QB like strength and throwing to support this claim.

Start with multiple replays of curls and comebackers being thrown low and we'll continue from there.

Needs more info
 
Hikariu
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Examples are always needed.
 
Snaza
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A better note might be... receivers are almost NEVER overthrown, but underthrown all the time.
 
Greenday4537
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Originally posted by Snaza
A better note might be... receivers are almost NEVER overthrown, but underthrown all the time.


Don't even need to post replays. If you've played here for a couple seasons, you know this is almost always the case.
 
TruthHammer
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Originally posted by Greenday4537
Don't even need to post replays. If you've played here for a couple seasons, you know this is almost always the case.


From the Nov. 11th Changelog:
- Upped the chance for overthrow on bad passes

I see overthrows much more often than in previous seasons. I also see a lot more bad passes in general.
 
Dr. E
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What's the QBs strength? Pass thrown low is a good indicator of strength too low.
 
Rlurie
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Just a few examples of all throws to a receiver who was running a curl or comeback route:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1446806&pbp_id=10146482
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1446806&pbp_id=10147434
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1446803&pbp_id=8321490
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1446802&pbp_id=7694865
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1446799&pbp_id=5867237
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1495597&pbp_id=10005321
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1495597&pbp_id=10005354
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1495597&pbp_id=10006267


That should be enough...I'm not sure if these are thrown low as in bad pass thrown low or if the QB actually can determine if throwing it low is the best spot for the ball. We just wanted to bring it to your attention as we seem to see it quite often with those type of routes.
Edited by rlurie on Dec 18, 2010 10:53:51
 
Dr. E
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Last 3 links are a private game. Pass looks like the bullet slider is about what 30 to 50 or so? That adds to the thrown low results if strength is too low.
 
MC_Hammer
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Originally posted by Dr. E
Last 3 links are a private game. Pass looks like the bullet slider is about what 30 to 50 or so? That adds to the thrown low results if strength is too low.


This is true

What are the QB's strength and bullet slider setting?
 
Rlurie
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Strength is 79, I believe the slider is at 50 towards bullet.

I've seen quite a few QB builds and 79 strength seems to be a pretty good number if you ask me.

 
TheGreatAus
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Originally posted by Dr. E
Last 3 links are a private game. Pass looks like the bullet slider is about what 30 to 50 or so? That adds to the thrown low results if strength is too low.


Thats ridiculous. Do you honestly believe that? I am sure you can go through the game and find a pass where the QB bombs it 30-40 yards and its not thrown low. But he cant complete a pass thats not even 10 yards?? Come on, even a high school kid could hit that, and thats a level 61 QB? Would be akin to an AFL QB?

These passes should be completed. I saw my QB do that all the time, Im glad someone posted something on this.
 
VolBrian
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Ok, let's clarify what examples we'll need to process this:

No QB hurries can be involved on the play.

Games must be open of course, not private.

Replays should show at least 2 different teams/QB's exhibiting the same action to show that it's not a build/tactic specific issue.

Buid/tactics for QB's in question need to be available.

I know it sounds like a lot, but it's what we need to consider this a bug at all.
 
Rlurie
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Can't this simply be tested and realized that something is wrong with the passing mechanics on curl and comeback routes?
 
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Originally posted by rlurie
Can't this simply be tested and realized that something is wrong with the passing mechanics on curl and comeback routes?


 
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