Warrior General Games

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1329700&pbp_id=8303488

I'm not sure what's funnier- the QB running out of bounds or the SS getting juked out of his shoes from 10 yards away. I know, LOL pewee, but something can't be right w/ this pathing...

after i break angles like that i would go out of bounds to save them any more embarrassment too.

Got any more examples of this? Also, what were the settings on the QB?

I doubt it is just a play thing

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1289127&pbp_id=2138471

In the OP the QB tries to ditch the SS, likely doesn't have the attributes to do so and ends with a silly path. You can see the QB tries to turn upfield but due to (likely) loo agility ends up with a huge turning radius.

The SS freezing really looks bad. It may be a vision check, and he doesn't see the QB !?

QB at 50-60 Evasive running style - One guess is the QB is over-reacting to the SS who is 10-15 yds downfiield.

eventually play runs ok, but really weird at first
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1344159&pbp_id=8145284

Looks like he wanted to cut inside, but the pathing nor defenders are forcing him there
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1341123&pbp_id=5145526

Another frightened by the phantom defender
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1341131&pbp_id=6388920

another stutter
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1341131&pbp_id=6395454

Originally posted by tragula
I doubt it is just a play thing

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1289127&pbp_id=2138471

In the OP the QB tries to ditch the SS, likely doesn't have the attributes to do so and ends with a silly path. You can see the QB tries to turn upfield but due to (likely) loo agility ends up with a huge turning radius.

The SS freezing really looks bad. It may be a vision check, and he doesn't see the QB !?

i disagree with you. In just this play- shotgun strong side rollout, the QB acts way different then any other of the rollout plays...reacting to defenders way far away from him. Also, it doesn't look like the QB makes much of an effort to stay in bounds (and it doesn't make sense why he wouldn't try that sooner cause the closest defender is around 15 yards away, lol)

Basically what i'm saying is the QB goes elusive waaaaaay too quick in strong side shotgun rollout and does way too much dancing reguardless of his settings. IN all other rollout plays he doesn't start any dancing till once he's passed the LOS.

example of the rollout from the opposite side
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1329698&pbp_id=7081032

Maybe it's some weird visual error where the SS isn't actually frozen in the sim and is closer to the QB then he appears?

Originally posted by kuaggie

example of the rollout from the opposite side
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1329698&pbp_id=7081032


No safety to make him bounce here, so bad example.

kb2120 examples are very clearly a bug, there is so much one can blame attributes on.
Looking on one of these games the weird behavior does seems unique to the shotgun strong roll-out. Example of the QB making sane decision in other plays
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1344159&pbp_id=8146796
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1344159&pbp_id=8145531

Originally posted by kb2120
QB at 50-60 Evasive running style - One guess is the QB is over-reacting to the SS who is 10-15 yds downfiield.

eventually play runs ok, but really weird at first
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1344159&pbp_id=8145284

Looks like he wanted to cut inside, but the pathing nor defenders are forcing him there
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1341123&pbp_id=5145526

Another frightened by the phantom defender
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1341131&pbp_id=6388920

another stutter
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1341131&pbp_id=6395454


Originally posted by tragula
No safety to make him bounce here, so bad example.

kb2120 examples are very clearly a bug, there is so much one can blame attributes on.
Looking on one of these games the weird behavior does seems unique to the shotgun strong roll-out. Example of the QB making sane decision in other plays
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1344159&pbp_id=8146796
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1344159&pbp_id=8145531


i agree w/ all this. Would be a first verification if in the QA forum

I've seen this too w/ my higher level rushing QB and pewee rushing QBs......shotgun strongside rollout simply behaves much different than the other QB rushing plays and i'm 99% sure it's not working as intended

So I helped by providing more examples ... This just going to be left for dead ?

Originally posted by ryan_grant-25
after i break angles like that i would go out of bounds to save them any more embarrassment too.

I think you mean break *ankles*. I wouldn't want you to embarrass yourself with your English or posting skills.

To me it looks like two separate issues. The first post is the QB running out of bounds for a reason unknown, while the others posted are the QB pretty much running circles in the backfield before going where the play was designed to go. To me this does appear to be a bug so I will mark it likely a bug.

There is something buggy here. Some of these replays remind me of Bug #194: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4084213

Sending to QA

Originally posted by Asdlfef
To me it looks like two separate issues. The first post is the QB running out of bounds for a reason unknown, while the others posted are the QB pretty much running circles in the backfield before going where the play was designed to go. To me this does appear to be a bug so I will mark it likely a bug.

I think the QB would have done something similar to running circles in the backfield...but due to his low levels, his agility was too low to allow him to do so.

I think it's the same issue, manifested differently at 2 different levels of the game. Just my opinion.

Originally posted by PING72
I think the QB would have done something similar to running circles in the backfield...but due to his low levels, his agility was too low to allow him to do so.

I think it's the same issue, manifested differently at 2 different levels of the game. Just my opinion.

i'm in agreeance here.

What needs to be done is some heavy testing of this one specific play. For reasons already posted, first verification