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In my opinion, rage-quiting is paramount to throwing a temper tantrum and is very immature. If you don't like the way things are going, do what DTD is doing and find examples and post them in the bugs forums. Or if that isn't enough and you want to quit, have some respect for the other teams in the league and finish out the season and quit GLB in the off season when it doesn't affect other teams.

People forget that GLB is NOTHING more than a business for Bort and crew and they will make decisions that will gain them the most money, PERIOD!. I have seen this in every MMO I have been in, and GLB is no different. They will take more notice if people publicity quit and provide a lot of good reasons for their decision rather than just rage-quit.

And something to think about is that what is broken this season might just be fixed next season. But until things are fixed, you have to deal with the problems and adapt. Pouting because the sim isn't working and you think it should is juvenile. I also think ego's play a part in this and people who are used to winning might make some mistakes due to recent changes and are suddenly not as good and just can't handle it. GROW UP! Change is part of life and you need to adapt.

/end rant

You make a good point, but there is one problem, Gerr. Many of us pay money (and a good bit of it) to play here. If I pay good money for a new TV and it performs like shit, I take it back and get a refund. Also, Tte TV manufacturer isn't constantly changing things up on the TV that I paid for. Channel 12 is channel 12 each and every month. Next month, I won't have to surf every channel trying to find the "new channel" that used to be channel 12. That is the problem I see with GLB. Bort is working to make improvements, but not any that are truly needed, at least not in PW. WE paid money expecting to get something (consistency) and instead are getting hosed. We have no course of action -- no refund -- other than to throw a tantrum. I think many of us have posted issues in the bugs section only to get dismissed. We've also made a ton of suggestions about PW only dots (like the cost of WR's for example), but they don't get heard either.

Though I wish TT and others would step back from the ledge, I certainly understand their point (Vrecksler is another one). Those guys have put a lot of time and money into this game, and it's getting worse. There's no way around it. At some point, you have to throw in the towel and call it a loss. When you do, you might as well go down in flames and hope that it raises a concern with management to help better things for those left behind.

Edit: If Bort were concerned, he come out with a, "We recognize the SIM has been screwy this season and for that we apologize. It was bound to happen with all of the improvements we're trying to make. To show our understanding and appreciation for your patience and persistence, we're going refund you 100% for dots created this past season."

Originally posted by juiceweezl
You make a good point, but there is one problem, Gerr. Many of us pay money (and a good bit of it) to play here. If I pay good money for a new TV and it performs like shit, I take it back and get a refund. Also, Tte TV manufacturer isn't constantly changing things up on the TV that I paid for. Channel 12 is channel 12 each and every month. Next month, I won't have to surf every channel trying to find the "new channel" that used to be channel 12. That is the problem I see with GLB. Bort is working to make improvements, but not any that are truly needed, at least not in PW. WE paid money expecting to get something (consistency) and instead are getting hosed. We have no course of action -- no refund -- other than to throw a tantrum. I think many of us have posted issues in the bugs section only to get dismissed. We've also made a ton of suggestions about PW only dots (like the cost of WR's for example), but they don't get heard either.

Though I wish TT and others would step back from the ledge, I certainly understand their point (Vrecksler is another one). Those guys have put a lot of time and money into this game, and it's getting worse. There's no way around it. At some point, you have to throw in the towel and call it a loss. When you do, you might as well go down in flames and hope that it raises a concern with management to help better things for those left behind.

Edit: If Bort were concerned, he come out with a, "We recognize the SIM has been screwy this season and for that we apologize. It was bound to happen with all of the improvements we're trying to make. To show our understanding and appreciation for your patience and persistence, we're going refund you 100% for dots created this past season."

+infinity and beyond

Never said there isn't anything wrong with GLB or that people shouldn't take action, but rage-quitting is not the mature way to go about it.

Just like many of you, I have spent a fair amount of money on this game. Even if things make a big turn for the worse, I won't get that money back, so why rage quit? Instead, protest for change by staying active in the game, but not spend any more money. Or if you are just tired of it, set your team to auto-pilot and ride out the season and quit in the off season. There are several other better options than to rage quit that make your feelings known and that don't screw with other people/teams in Gold.

/shrug, its only a game quit when you feel like it.

setting your team to auto pilot and selling it back are the same thing...especially since TT said he would train still

Originally posted by Gerr

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rant implies anger or frustration, did u just make a rage post about someone rage quitting?

i think it was a ninjarage post t66

Originally posted by Thunder66
rant implies anger or frustration, did u just make a rage post about someone rage quitting?

You my sir have great timing.

+1 Cool Point.

Originally posted by MGeezy2186
i think it was a ninjarage post t66

LMAO. On another note, this image popped up while I was searching for a humorous dot image to post. I was going for something that involved chesticles, but hey, if I find a picture of Bort at Hallowee, I have to share.

http://www.joesportsfan.com/jsfpics/columns2/rhodesdusty.jpg

Gerr,

To borrow a line from Homer Simpson...

"you're living in a world of make-believe! With flowers and bells and leprechauns and magic frogs with funny little hats."

It's a little short-sighted to call the decision immature and/or a temper tantrum. If he wasn't enjoying the game, spending too much money on it, AND too much time.. the decision could be considered a damn good one. He's also pretty much a one man team so he didn't abandon a group of agents.

Maybe TT will post in a bit and agree with you after sleeping on his decision... but to me, watching Sports and playings games just about the only times I get to let loose and RAGE... and I love it. I'm a pretty reserved person in real life but I turn into a complete maniac during UK Basketball games or playing Call of Duty...

Originally posted by juiceweezl
Originally posted by MGeezy2186

i think it was a ninjarage post t66

LMAO. On another note, this image popped up while I was searching for a humorous dot image to post. I was going for something that involved chesticles, but hey, if I find a picture of Bort at Hallowee, I have to share.

http://www.joesportsfan.com/jsfpics/columns2/rhodesdusty.jpg



LMAO

Good Morning Gerr. Let's have a chat you and I.

Originally posted by Gerr
In my opinion, rage-quiting is paramount to throwing a temper tantrum and is very immature. Or if that isn't enough and you want to quit, have some respect for the other teams in the league and finish out the season and quit GLB in the off season when it doesn't affect other teams.

I've been doing this alone for a very long time, and we all know that I am not making any big changes from game to game anyway. My AI is saved, my players are still being trained and SP is still being assigned. Quite frankly I could give the bears a run for their money as a CPU team. Please don't try and educate me about Pee Wee respect, and don't try and compare me to a child. My team was done at the end of this season, at least I have enough respect to go CPU prior to the shuffle, so at least the DI aren't going to be floating in Gold next season as a CPU team.

Originally posted by Gerr
People forget that GLB is NOTHING more than a business for Bort and crew and they will make decisions that will gain them the most money, PERIOD!. I have seen this in every MMO I have been in, and GLB is no different. They will take more notice if people publicity quit and provide a lot of good reasons for their decision rather than just rage-quit.

This is a business for Bort and crew, and it is just a game. A game that I have spent more than 1500 bucks on. I didn't ragequit and leave without telling people why. I left a laundry list of items in Catch 22's private forum. Things that I have been asking to be fixed for a long time. Which brings up this:

Originally posted by Gerr
And something to think about is that what is broken this season might just be fixed next season. But until things are fixed, you have to deal with the problems and adapt. Pouting because the sim isn't working and you think it should is juvenile. I also think ego's play a part in this and people who are used to winning might make some mistakes due to recent changes and are suddenly not as good and just can't handle it. GROW UP! Change is part of life and you need to adapt.

Things will not be fixed next season. They have already stated that the only implementations for the next season are coaches and GLB for the iPhone. As far as Bort and Catch are concerned, this game is almost out of beta and is looking good. And just because you have gotten better at tricking your dots to be in the right place at the right time, doesn't mean that the sim is working.

As to egos, you need to look at my 8 season Pee Wee career. I've won ONE trophy. I'm not exactly 'used' to winning as you suggest. I made a decision to sell my team and now you are the one sounding like a child. I'm tired of this game (And it is just a game), and after 8 seasons of waiting for things to get better, I'm just not going to waste any more time trying to trick my dots to be in the right places.

Originally posted by Gerr
Never said there isn't anything wrong with GLB or that people shouldn't take action, but rage-quitting is not the mature way to go about it.

Just like many of you, I have spent a fair amount of money on this game. Even if things make a big turn for the worse, I won't get that money back, so why rage quit? Instead, protest for change by staying active in the game, but not spend any more money. Or if you are just tired of it, set your team to auto-pilot and ride out the season and quit in the off season. There are several other better options than to rage quit that make your feelings known and that don't screw with other people/teams in Gold.

Protesting is for hippies. I've made my changes in the world of Pee Wee. If you don't believe me, ask yourself what league you are in. Pee Wee Gold was something that came about because of my idea, and my effort in pushing people to get on board.

Leaving at the end of the season when everyone else is talking about leaving isn't going to make any more impact, and will likely make a lot less. I'm not going to start a union, I'm not going to push people to stop spending their money until change is effected, because I've seen what comes of these pushes. How many of you are non-boost, non-custom this season? Raise of hands. How many of you are no level 8 tree on any of your players? Don't try and act like I was going to be the catalyst for some big change. I leave for Europe in a month and then I start school. I don't have the time and energy to try and push for more changes.

How many of you got on board when two season's ago I pushed for making field goals an actual option in Pee Wee (or alternatively allowing us to punt from within the 30)? When I was talking about how ever since the zone nerf came around that Pee Wee players can barely make use of the zones, how many people said that this was a change that mattered?

Then when Pee Wee silvers got shuffled, and when the whole community raised their voices, what was the reply from Bort? "Working as intended. What makes you think that a Copper team won't be able to succeed as well as a Silver team?"

How about 8 seasons of owning a team in Pee Wee and having Pee Wee players since season 7?

Gerr, don't try and educate me on my duties and responsibilities like somehow you have actually done anything for the Pee Wee community.

/rant.

...Originally posted by Gerr
Never said there isn't anything wrong with GLB or that people shouldn't take action, but rage-quitting is not the mature way to go about it.

Just like many of you, I have spent a fair amount of money on this game. Even if things make a big turn for the worse, I won't get that money back, so why rage quit? Instead, protest for change by staying active in the game, but not spend any more money. Or if you are just tired of it, set your team to auto-pilot and ride out the season and quit in the off season. There are several other better options than to rage quit that make your feelings known and that don't screw with other people/teams in Gold.

but staying involved in the game and just protesing about it still gives GLB the comfort of knowing that they still have you by the balls ...and you know it also! ...but quitting completely is a comprehensive stfu to GLB, which i think needs to be happening, coz the expense to be competitive in this game outweighs the value for money that we get in return ...and Bort should re-evaluate the costs if he wants to keep us onboard imo ...big spending customers such as TT quitting sends a clear message that GLB is losing its support and needs to comply with some price cuts ...at least until there is a significant improvement of the sims!