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This is just an idea for discussion.i'd be willing to try and get something going, but the idea needs refinement.

So, i was thinking we should pick 3 events, and declare them as triple crown events. Win all three and get a cool trophy showing your teams dominance for an entire season. some flex would be nice, but i'm not sure how you get that going.

#1--I think one of the three should be the air attack tourney. LE runs this really professional, and its a good test outside of what your team normally does.

#2-- I think the peewee cup or the ftw. I am leaning towards the cup as its slightly more official and maybe glb would get behind it, but the ftw would be a great choice as well.

#3-- win the gold league- I think this would get the most negative responses, but not all the silver eagues are equal. also i think it would be cool to have it be the toughest things your peewee team can do. Wanna win the triple crown, get to gold.

First off. it would be really tough to pull off, but we already have an undefeated gold league champion. I think something like this could give the few super-elite teams something to shoot for.

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I think we need to give Silver teams a chance at this, so my vote would be for the Official PW Cup, FTW tourney, and then LE's AA tourney.

No team has ever won the big two tourneys and the gold title, so if we use that, I doubt it would ever happen. So my idea would be for a triple crown of tourneys.
 
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I don't like that idea for a few reasons, but i appreciate the discussion.

1. way too many scrimmages, unfair to gold teams who also have to gameplan alot more than alot of these silver teams will.

2. lets a team boost around this triple crown, and not winning a league. I think you have to win your league as well or its meanningless. paper champion imo.

3. i like the idea of it being rare and difficult. if no one wins it for a while, then its business as usual. i think it could help promote getting some gold teams in a few more tournies.

4. its absolutley undeniable if you won the 3 i suggested, you are the greatest. won gold, beat evryone in a fair fight(the cup), and can mix it up against everyone (AA).
 
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You are correct in that it would be one hell of a thing to do. Problem is we might go another 10+ seasons without having anyone win it, so it's meaningless if no one does.
 
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very true. maybe make it so a team could win either the ftw, or the cup for the second one. As tournaments change after time, just select a few of the biggest general tournaments.

for example to win GOLD triple crown
1.Gold League
2.Any major tourament with "normal rules" open to most/all of the league. The Cup, official tourney, FTW
3.The air attack- proves your not one dimensional and adds the flavor and difficulty

we can also have a silver version.
1. win your league
2. major open or tourney that does a good job of inviting
3. air attack

i wouldn't donate any flex or players for the silver one, but it would give silver something to try. there probably would end up being alot of silver ones which could be cool. the gold one should be hard to do, but mean WAY more than a silver one.


 
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Originally posted by gruppo

the gold one should be hard to do, but mean WAY more than a silver one.


I don't really think you could say this, yea silver championship is nothing compared to gold, but if a silver team wins the PW Cup or FTW and the Air Attack how would it mean WAY less for a silver team? It's not like this is any easier for a silver team, the only difference is that it's way easier to win a silver championship than gold.
 
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i knew it wouldn't take long for you to troll this.

it would mean more becuse in order to win the gold league you have to beat all the gold teams that don't care about tournies at all.

if you want to be one of the greatest of all time, it goes through gold.

 
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Originally posted by gruppo
i knew it wouldn't take long for you to troll this.

it would mean more becuse in order to win the gold league you have to beat all the gold teams that don't care about tournies at all.

if you want to be one of the greatest of all time, it goes through gold.



Get over yourself, just because I hurt you once doesn't mean you have to consider everything I say a "troll" post, grow up...

Then on what you were saying, I know it would mean more, but you couldn't really say it would mean "Way" more than silver doing it because trust me gold teams DO game plan for the official cup, and most do for the FTW tourney. You can't really speak for gold in saying that teams don't game plan for tourneys. They may not put out their "best" stuff, but they still try to win with a solid game plan.
 
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A triple crown is a great idea!

Like others, I also feel this should not be limited to only Gold teams but all PW teams. To suggest that any team that can win 3 majors in 1 season would be less worthy just because they come from Gold or Copper is a little shortsighted. Certainly tougher for a Gold team due to the increased gameplanning demands and much tougher league, but a tournament win is tough to do once let alone 3 times. It would definitely be the ultimate achievement if a Gold trophy was added to the above, but I kind of see this is a comparison between a Grand Slam and a Tiger Slam. Both are noteworthy accomplishments, but one is clearly tougher and more distinguished.

Off Topic: I also think with all the anti-Bort sentiments floating around that we should be trying to gain solidarity amoung the PW leagues and making this exlusive to Gold only just widens a gap that already exists. The 'golden attitudes' displayed by some teams/owners/agents only weakens potential PW supporters when dealing with the GLB overlords imo.
Edited by vrecksler on May 29, 2010 13:40:14
 
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i'm not trying to keep silver teams out at all.

you guys jump all over everything before you understand it and thats why nothings gets done around here.

vreck you can call me shortsighted,but you didn't understand what i wrote.

the point i see different in winning 3 majors vs. winning 2 and your league means you also had to build for the entire season.it means more to me to win any league you are in than any tournament. i wish i one more of both, but i'd take a gold league trophy over all in GLB.

I guess i don't know all about tiger slams and such. So it would be the ultimate achievement, but only by a marginal bit is what you are saying? If i built a copper team and won this, it would only be marginally cooler than doing it ina gold league?

i said i was for a silver one, get an awesome silver trophy. maybe every couple of seasons a teams earns one.

also a gold one, gold trophy- ultimate achievement. something maybe shortbus could win every once in a while, but would take a really special team

 
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dtd you troll because you take everything out of context and try and make stupid points out of it.

i never claimed to speak for all gold teams or claim, or suggest they don't gameplan for tournies. i suggested trying to lure a team into a tournament that might not actually want to play them for whatever reason

edit- for ignoring most of what you wrote so i don't let you derail my thread
Edited by gruppo on May 29, 2010 13:59:25
 
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Originally posted by gruppo
dtd you troll because you take everything out of context and try and make stupid points out of it.

i never claimed to speak for all gold teams or claim, or suggest they don't gameplan for tournies. i suggested trying to lure a team into a tournament that might not actually want to play them for whatever reason

edit- for ignoring most of what you wrote so i don't let you derail my thread


Yea your right seeing as how Vreck said pretty much the same thing I did, again get over yourself and stay on the topic of your own thread.
 
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http://www.nflfever2.com/Gold/PeeWeeKings.gif

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please go away from this, tgdtd.

I guess what it comes down to is winning your league and 2 tournaments better than 3 tournaments? I think it has to include winning your league as 1 of the 3. Whats the problem with that? If you do win all 3, your triple crown trophy reflects the color of league. have a copper one too.

I guess its upsetting that i used "way" to describe the prestige and difficulty of doing that ina gold league. I stand that it would mean alot more to win, the AA, the CUP, and Gold League. If someone did that, whats the problem in saying the are way better than everyone?
 
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Originally posted by LordEvil
http://www.nflfever2.com/Gold/PeeWeeKings.gif

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yes, something awesome that says, WE ARE THE KINGS OF PEEWEE.

seriuosly, if some team could run it in gold it would be so impressive. probably impossible, but i think if the prestige and maybe flex prize were enough we could see a few of the favorites like shortbus give it a run sometime.

I'm not trying to take anything away foma silver or copper team doing it and they deserve awesome trophies too. i think that its more likelty to happen so i'm not donating any flex for that as it could happen to a silver team every season.
Edited by gruppo on May 29, 2010 14:26:08
Edited by gruppo on May 29, 2010 14:25:45
 
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