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So, since Vegas continues to spew forth childish threads that get the masses riled up, can we have a second forum underneath APL? CPL for instance has a second forum for all their trash, I propose we add a second one here for Vegas to post all his "threads."

It would be pretty simple, this forum would remain: "APL" and will continue to be used by sane, logical posters who care to post on subjects concerning the well-being of the Africa Pro League.

This new forum that is hereby proposed should be entitled: "To the second point..." a runoff African Version of CPL's garbage forum. The under title should read: "For all the Jerry Jones' of the APL out there." The purpose of this thread would be to allow Vegas to post incessantly about himself and his "team." Thankfully, it will be out of sight of the main APL forum, and will only allow flame fests for those that choose to enter that forum. This would be a welcomed alternative rather than see a daily bogged down APL forum. No legitimate threads would be permitted here, and logic must be thrown out the window before entering.

Some may be concerned that if Vegas left the APL, that this new forum would be unnecessary. Do not worry, it is very clear that the team: "ABD" will never be promoted from APL, and their successful stint in mediocrity will always keep them just above relegation. As long as there is a APL, it appears there will be a Vegas as he refuses to either admit defeat or figure out success. To hopefully maintain dignity and proper posting on this board, please... do us a favor... create Vegas his own whiny forum!

Sincerely, Randey and the rest of the APL

(Joke Ended)

Man I can see you cracking on Vegas and that is fine but your blatant cracking on the team and it's members is bullshit. I came onto the team this past season and I myself have never downed any of you. Nor have I made any type of attacks at you or any other teams or players in this league. If you want to bitch about vegas then do so. But leave the team and the players out of it. we haven't done anything to anyone we play the game and try to do so with integrity. And we try to show everyone a equal amount of respect. Your beef is with Vegas and not the team.

Quit your whining Hatch....Respect is earned and you popping in for one season is way to short of a stint for your opinion to matter.

There hasn't been any criticism of any agents on ABD, but rather a criticism of the team's leadership. The team is what its leadership makes of it. In your case, ABD hasn't been and won't be for the foreseeable future, a contender. Also, as if the last two words were not enough, this thread is meant as a joke solution to solving Vegas' mad posting skillz.


Minor Retraction: Everyone did hate on that one FS dude from your team who claimed to be the best FS in the APL... ya, that agent was kinda, how should i say this... an idiot? But he easily brought that on himself.

Originally posted by hatchman
Man I can see you cracking on Vegas and that is fine but your blatant cracking on the team and it's members is bullshit. I came onto the team this past season and I myself have never downed any of you. Nor have I made any type of attacks at you or any other teams or players in this league. If you want to bitch about vegas then do so. But leave the team and the players out of it. we haven't done anything to anyone we play the game and try to do so with integrity. And we try to show everyone a equal amount of respect. Your beef is with Vegas and not the team.

Why don't you pull your head out of your ass and scan through the 50+ pages of the APL forums and see why this is here. I don't see you in the threads Vegas starts asking him not to bash on teams because he has a problem with there coaches.

Originally posted by rjssob
Quit your whining Hatch....Respect is earned and you popping in for one season is way to short of a stint for your opinion to matter.

First off I am not whining I was trying to speak to you as a mature adult something that must have escaped your thought process there. I will also say thank you for your smart ass remark to me. that just gives me a little more incentive to get better and try to improve the ABD franchise. You guys can hate on Vegas as much as you like and that is something I do not know much about. Nor do I care to be a part of it. But I do take my job as a OC seriously and I owe it to the players that play for me to defend them. the ABD may be a joke to you guys now but that will hopefully change soon.

Also rjssob I am not sure where you are from but where I am from we try to show respect to everyone. I don't have to earn your respect or anyone else's for that matter. I want to be a valid part of this league but guys like you that judge someone just from what team they are associated with are very narrow minded to say the least. best of luck to you and your team.

Originally posted by Parab00n
Why don't you pull your head out of your ass and scan through the 50+ pages of the APL forums and see why this is here. I don't see you in the threads Vegas starts asking him not to bash on teams because he has a problem with there coaches.

First off my head is not in my ass and thank you for proving a point. again I don't control Vegas and I don't control you I was just trying to show a point that you guys didn't seem to get. basically you guys want to be a smart ass towards me just because I am a part of the ABD now. And that is fine I am not defending Vegas I am trying to defend agents on the ABD team. the history you guys have with Vegas is one thing and I am not associated with that problem. I was just asking that if you want to bash Vegas bash Vegas not the team of agents that are on his team. We work hard to try to better the team. And we are also trying to be good sports in the league but we are getting bashed just because who the owner is. I will leave this alone as I guess just because Vegas owns the team then that makes us all guilty of whatever you guys problem with Vegas is. best of luck to you guys and your teams.

Hatch, I don't think anyone has shown you anything but respect, but your little posts are starting to annoy me. Nobody is attacking the agents of the most mediocre franchise in GLB, just Vegas who is in all his glory when he sees post after post about himself. As far as respect, I'll treat you with respect once you stop whining....

Yea gotta agree to the point of put up or shut up. Vegas has been here from the start and all the talk has roots deeper than you or most of us will ever really want to know. The best thing you can do is just ignore it and move on.

Its admirable that you are sticking up for the team, but tbh its like people have said to Kiffin. Put up or shut up. Until you improve them and get them in the playoffs and win a playoff game ADB is always going to be the brunt of many jokes, especially with Vegas at the helm and the barking he does.

Originally posted by head1
Yea gotta agree to the point of put up or shut up. Vegas has been here from the start and all the talk has roots deeper than you or most of us will ever really want to know. The best thing you can do is just ignore it and move on.

Its admirable that you are sticking up for the team, but tbh its like people have said to Kiffin. Put up or shut up. Until you improve them and get them in the playoffs and win a playoff game ADB is always going to be the brunt of many jokes, especially with Vegas at the helm and the barking he does.

I appreciate the honesty and I will work my ass off to do just what you have said. I appreciate that you all recognize what I was doing and that I wasn't trying to start shit with anyone. I was just trying to defend the team and her agents.

Originally posted by hatchman
I appreciate the honesty and I will work my ass off to do just what you have said. I appreciate that you all recognize what I was doing and that I wasn't trying to start shit with anyone. I was just trying to defend the team and her agents.

You seem a decent fellow...no. wait. used that line already. Seriously, you seem like you have your head around being a good OC and I point out there are 31 other APL teams that might appreciate your attitude and effort a bit more. Just a suggestion to consider.

As much as I appreciate the thought I have to say this and you guys won't believe it. Vegas has been a first class guy to work with. I know you guys won't believe that but I had no idea of the stuff in the forums until I just got bored one day and came into this forum and read some stuff. Vegas has been cool as hell to me I have screwed up a couple times against a few teams and he never said anything out of the way about it. As a OC I do very well in the lower leagues I have teams that I OC in very good shape for the playoffs. My own team has a very good shot at a championship this season. So I have the tools and know how I have just had a hard time getting it to work in this league. and that is a testament to the DC's in this league. I am learning from each game against you guys as far as what works and what doesn't. hopefully soon I can give you guys a challenge.

Originally posted by hatchman
As much as I appreciate the thought I have to say this and you guys won't believe it. Vegas has been a first class guy to work with. I know you guys won't believe that but I had no idea of the stuff in the forums until I just got bored one day and came into this forum and read some stuff. Vegas has been cool as hell to me I have screwed up a couple times against a few teams and he never said anything out of the way about it. As a OC I do very well in the lower leagues I have teams that I OC in very good shape for the playoffs. My own team has a very good shot at a championship this season. So I have the tools and know how I have just had a hard time getting it to work in this league. and that is a testament to the DC's in this league. I am learning from each game against you guys as far as what works and what doesn't. hopefully soon I can give you guys a challenge.

Keep at it bro. A lot of coordinators like to give off the impression that they are just naturally awesome at making their defenses / offenses good. And that just simply isn't the truth, good coordinators became good coordinators because they took the time to understand the sim, how the sim changes, and learned from other coordinators in the same capacity, and even more important, learned from watching opposing coordinators success.

You seem like a decent enough guy, and I wish you the best. I don't dislike Vegas, honestly he keeps the forums spicy at times. I do think he is a cool enough guy, and would be one heck of a guy to hang out with in RL. I do believe he is a loyal enough Owner and that he takes care of his players. From the convos I have had with him, he does shoot straight with you and seems to legitimately be a nice enough dude. However, this is the limit on nice things I will divulge to ABD or Vegas as what fun would it be if we all sang Kum Ba Yah around a camp fire?

ADB AND VEGAS SUX!

Originally posted by randey
Keep at it bro. A lot of coordinators like to give off the impression that they are just naturally awesome at making their defenses / offenses good. And that just simply isn't the truth, good coordinators became good coordinators because they took the time to understand the sim, how the sim changes, and learned from other coordinators in the same capacity, and even more important, learned from watching opposing coordinators success.

You seem like a decent enough guy, and I wish you the best. I don't dislike Vegas, honestly he keeps the forums spicy at times. I do think he is a cool enough guy, and would be one heck of a guy to hang out with in RL. I do believe he is a loyal enough Owner and that he takes care of his players. From the convos I have had with him, he does shoot straight with you and seems to legitimately be a nice enough dude. However, this is the limit on nice things I will divulge to ABD or Vegas as what fun would it be if we all sang Kum Ba Yah around a camp fire?

ADB AND VEGAS SUX!

Thank you I really appreciate the kind words. I know that the change from the lower levels to the PRO's is a huge difference. It is like going from a highschool team to the PRO's. alot of my offense in the lower levels is based solely on the run and shoot theory. I noticed that in the PRO's the QB doesn't have the time to react the same as in the minors or AA. I also noticed the way I like to use the HB's changed alot in the PRO's.

Originally posted by Parab00n
Why don't you pull your head out of your ass and scan through the 50+ pages of the APL forums and see why this is here. I don't see you in the threads Vegas starts asking him not to bash on teams because he has a problem with there coaches.

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