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bluefox
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Hello guys, I have a guard and I found an Ad. Eq. piece that boosts pancake. I've upgraded it 2 times so now it has +2 blocking and +2 pancake, is not equiped since I have the regular equipment with +4 blocking. Should I equip the special piece and keep upgrading or wait until the special equipment piece has +4blocking to switch them?
Basically, I want to know if 2 levels of pancake (it would take it to 6) are worth 2 less points of blocking (It will take a while until I gather the 16 BT that i need).
thanks in advance!
 
AngryDragon
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It is hard to say which is better eq imo. If I were you I would try it out in an easy game or a scrimmage game.
 
FatLoad
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Pancakes are a joke. You get significant pancakes when your build is superior to your opponents build. I prefer the extra points in blocking because that will help you against better players.

The pancake SA helps you when your opponent sucks - you don't really need the help at that point. If you want pancakes, play worse opponents.

I have made the mistake of spending points on the pancake SA. I wish I spent them on other SA's or in another attribute such as vision, confidence or stamina. Most of the SA's an O-lineman has on their trees are worth more than Pancake. And the regular attributes are worth more than pancake.
 
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Depends on the build. If you can spare the points in blocking without giving up hurries and sacks, and you are a good run blocker with a decent number of pancakes naturally, and you have the showboat blocker VA up to 5 or 10 or more, then pancake could be a good option.
 
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Thanks to all!!
the special EQ was bought when I didn't know that Pancake was a bad SA.
I have 10 VP on great blocker and 7 onto showboat blocker, on my way to 10.
If I have a scimmage (I doubt it, we had one yesterday) I'll try, but maybe I'll look for some shopping tokens and look for a better option of Advanced equipment.
Thanks again to you all!!!
 
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Originally posted by Darren McFadden
Depends on the build. If you can spare the points in blocking without giving up hurries and sacks, and you are a good run blocker with a decent number of pancakes naturally, and you have the showboat blocker VA up to 5 or 10 or more, then pancake could be a good option.


If you are getting pancakes naturally, you are playing against inferior opponents. You may see some pancakes against good players, but adding to Pancakes SA will mean wasting points instead of making a better player.
 
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Look at it like this: you're playing a decent team, about as good as yours. For whatever reason, your guard is slightly better than the opponents tackle. You have the showboat blocker VA and instead of pancaking the player 2-3 times, you pancake him 5-6 times because you have +4 in pancake due to eq. His morale is something like 6 points lower. Now his performance takes a hit and maybe he's lower in energy (?) and their backup isn't that good, they lose their starter's DLG bonus and the rest of the line doesn't perform well...
 


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