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eholling
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I rolled a second piece of Line general gear, this one with a +3 Blocking to go with it. I couldn't pass on it even though it was in the same slot as a decent piece of shock block gear. So now I've got a center with a 12 Line General where the base SA is 4 and I'm thinking I could take this to 15 or 16 without spending very much SP on it.

Is it worth it or not?
 
Octowned
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One piece, 4 base, is fine, especially with 10 natural leader
 
eholling
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Originally posted by Octowned
One piece, 4 base, is fine, especially with 10 natural leader


So you're saying 10 or less as a total is good? It's hard for me to see results as I don't have access to this particular team's game summaries but on teams where i do, Morale and Stamina do seem to be an OLine issue against some defenses.
 
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Well, my Center is rocking 13 right now and I'm feeling much better about him in the last season or to than I did when I only had 8 in it. I think a Center with 15 Line Gen and 15 Natural Leader would be great.
 
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I think the best way to judge is to examine the player in all aspects of his game and consider performance of the line overall as a function of time and judge whether some other SA or ability could make a more significant improvement to the overall performance of the team.
 
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I went with 4 base, 1 from CE, 4 from AEQ for a total of 9 at 43. At 56, the AEQ will get it to 10. Plus 15 in Natural Leader.

I think the SPs past the four base can be used more wisely -- more confidence, vision and eventually, SAs.
Edited by boilerup on Jul 16, 2009 22:39:46
 
hee163
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More than 10 on any SA is a waste due to diminishing returns. No SA is so good you need more than that. 4 natural points +CE +1AEQ at L56 = 10
 
RAPB
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Originally posted by hee163
More than 10 on any SA is a waste due to diminishing returns. No SA is so good you need more than that. 4 natural points +CE +1AEQ at L56 = 10


Question is, if that diminishing returns are still worth it. Just because you get less bang for a buck doesn't mean it's not worth it.
 
Octowned
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Right. But my o-line has been solid with only 8 and 10 in natural leader, so in this case I still agree but not for the "diminishing returns" reason.
 
RAPB
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Originally posted by Octowned
Right. But my o-line has been solid with only 8 and 10 in natural leader, so in this case I still agree but not for the "diminishing returns" reason.


...that's all about it, folks!

Solid o-line: 7-9 Line General should be enough; reason: if the blockers fail badly once in a while, there's enough time to get in-game confidence up to 100 again

O-line missing blocks and allowing pressure: as high as can be; reason: if the blockers are overmatched almost every snap, in-game morale has to go up as fast as possible in order to prevent a drowning spiral

If you want to find out if your team has a solid o-line or a weak one, check game summary and watch how many (and often) the o-line dots fall down. A blocker failing to block usually does a desperate cut block attempt and/or gets reverse pancaked - so blockers beeing down shows if your o-line fails.
 


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