Warrior General Games

Acording to my calculations


Ive done the math on this before myself. This is what Ive found.

PLAYERS

64,869 players existing that cost 300 FLEX to boost.

161,825 players existing that cost 200 FLEX to boost.

75,910 players existing that cost 100 FLEX to boost.


Lets say that just 1/3 of these players are avtice(im dyslexic I swear) and boost.

21,406 x 300 = 6,421,800 FLEX

53,402 x 200 = 10,680,400 FLEX

25,050 x 100 = 2,505,000 FLEX

Assuming they each boost three times we are looking at a total of

6,421,800 x 3 = 19,265,400 FLEX

10,680,400 x 3 = 32,041,200 FLEX

2,505,000 x 3 = 7,515,000 FLEX


TOTAL = 58,821,600 FLEX *(Per Season)

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TEAMS

56 Regular Regional leagues with 16 teams at 1000 FLEX = (56x16=896) 896,000 FLEX

118 Minor Leagues with 32 teams at 1000 FLEX = (118x16=1,888) 3,776,000 FLEX

41 Casual Leagues with 32 teams at 400 FLEX = (41x16=656) 524,800 FLEX

25 PEE WEE Leagues with 32 teams at 400 FLEX = (25x16=400) 320,000 FLEX


TOTAL = 6,412,800 FLEX*(Per Season)

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Players + Teams Total = 65,234,400 FLEX*(Per Season)


Lets assume 1/2 of the active players that boost buy CE. 48,400 x 900 = 43,560,000 FLEX *(One Time)

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FLEX PRICING

If we assume thatt FLEX points cost $.76 per 100 (which is the price if bought in the package of 5,000) then we come to the totals of.


Players + Teams = 65,234,400/100 = 652,344 x $.76 = $495,781* (Per Season)

CE = 43,560,900/100 = 435,609 x $.76 = $331,062 (One Time)

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1 season = approx 2 months

$495,781 x 6 seasons/year = $2,974,688 per year.


Thoughts?

I'd like to invest in GLB.

Originally posted by GreenDragon
I'd like to invest in GLB.

Me too!
I´m pretty sure that this is one of the less companies who are/will be infected by the financial crisis.

OMG that's the same # I came up with!
Kidding..

Now incorporate the overhead:

1. Bandwidth costs
2. Server hardware & maintenance
3. Employee salary

I figure the site can run with less than 10 employees.
- 4 Database Admins/script writers
- 3 Web Developers
- 3 Other

It's a nice little profitable business.

Originally posted by willinsky
OMG that's the same # I came up with!
Kidding..

Now incorporate the overhead:

1. Bandwidth costs
2. Server hardware & maintenance
3. Employee salary

I figure the site can run with less than 10 employees.
- 4 Database Admins/script writers
- 3 Web Developers
- 3 Other

It's a nice little profitable business.


Doubt there are 10 employees. From everything Ive read, Bort writes all the script. Might have DD to deal with financial side but that might be it. Also, server cost is probably about 200k total.

You are right. They are making bank.

Well, I'm sure Bort has backup admins at least..but ya 10 is a few high.
Plus I'm sure he has content guys to determine changes. Running it solo would make him a pretty rich guy..but a BUSY rich guy.
He can give me a job!

Yeah they make bank

Originally posted by OSshane
Yeah they make bank

But for how long? I am confident as players leave and after next season tons of players retire subsequentally returning lots of flex that GLB is going to take a big hit. Personally I would advertise on the site. Not stupid pop ups, but football/video game related content.

Crit,

you got close, but didn't hit the ball on the head. These guys don't make bank. Do they do OK? Maybe. Trust me, if they were making bank; they would have already been sold. Here are a few points you are missing. A good chunk of players have been retired. And because GLB gives back a fair amount of flex for retired players, it all but ensures that GLB only has you for the initial investment. Additionally Bort makes way too many nerf, fixes, adding new functionality, etc..... before he even fixes some of the basic parts of the game. That chases away agents who just let their players go inactive (forever). I know you may think that is small, but it is not.

All that shit is one time revenue. Say I have 20 players and I boost, custom eq, etc for the life of my players. Once I retire them, I never have to put more $$$ back into GLB. I could have 20 more players and never spend any more money to play GLB and get my players moving. Seriously, who cares about 1X revenue. Also, Server costs are way more than 200K per year. You have to have enough servers set up correctly and an enterprise database to handle the potential of over a quarter of a million UNIQUE users on the site at the SAME TIME. I know Bort has an open source testing program, but they need to test every known and unknown possibility and scenario. Maybe they aren't employees, but they at least have to be contractors.

What they need is recurring revenue. Why not charge a monthly fee to play GLB. Say $10/month or $100/year per agent. Say there are 100,000 agents; that means either 1 Million per month or 10 Million per year in recurring revenue. Shit, cut that in half and Bort is still doing awesome with recurring revenue. The question is why hasn't he gone that route and and why hasn't ESPN or some other large company NOT come along and scooped them up. There has to be some reason, I just don't know what it is........

But, they ain't making bank. Maybe a good side living; but it ain't bank.

"Side living"? I have a feeling Bort doesn't have a job other than this. -_-

Originally posted by gaelenkash
Crit,

you got close, but didn't hit the ball on the head. These guys don't make bank. Do they do OK? Maybe. Trust me, if they were making bank; they would have already been sold. Here are a few points you are missing. A good chunk of players have been retired. And because GLB gives back a fair amount of flex for retired players, it all but ensures that GLB only has you for the initial investment. Additionally Bort makes way too many nerf, fixes, adding new functionality, etc..... before he even fixes some of the basic parts of the game. That chases away agents who just let their players go inactive (forever). I know you may think that is small, but it is not.

All that shit is one time revenue. Say I have 20 players and I boost, custom eq, etc for the life of my players. Once I retire them, I never have to put more $$$ back into GLB. I could have 20 more players and never spend any more money to play GLB and get my players moving. Seriously, who cares about 1X revenue. Also, Server costs are way more than 200K per year. You have to have enough servers set up correctly and an enterprise database to handle the potential of over a quarter of a million UNIQUE users on the site at the SAME TIME. I know Bort has an open source testing program, but they need to test every known and unknown possibility and scenario. Maybe they aren't employees, but they at least have to be contractors.

What they need is recurring revenue. Why not charge a monthly fee to play GLB. Say $10/month or $100/year per agent. Say there are 100,000 agents; that means either 1 Million per month or 10 Million per year in recurring revenue. Shit, cut that in half and Bort is still doing awesome with recurring revenue. The question is why hasn't he gone that route and and why hasn't ESPN or some other large company NOT come along and scooped them up. There has to be some reason, I just don't know what it is........

But, they ain't making bank. Maybe a good side living; but it ain't bank.

To long, didnt read. They make bank

If you can't even figure out how many teams are in a league, then I'm pretty sure the rest of your numbers are complete bullshit also.

When you make a basic error like that it just shows you can't be trusted with math more complicated than counting to 32.

Originally posted by gaelenkash
Crit,

you got close, but didn't hit the ball on the head. These guys don't make bank. Do they do OK? Maybe. Trust me, if they were making bank; they would have already been sold. Here are a few points you are missing. A good chunk of players have been retired. And because GLB gives back a fair amount of flex for retired players, it all but ensures that GLB only has you for the initial investment. Additionally Bort makes way too many nerf, fixes, adding new functionality, etc..... before he even fixes some of the basic parts of the game. That chases away agents who just let their players go inactive (forever). I know you may think that is small, but it is not.

All that shit is one time revenue. Say I have 20 players and I boost, custom eq, etc for the life of my players. Once I retire them, I never have to put more $$$ back into GLB. I could have 20 more players and never spend any more money to play GLB and get my players moving. Seriously, who cares about 1X revenue. Also, Server costs are way more than 200K per year. You have to have enough servers set up correctly and an enterprise database to handle the potential of over a quarter of a million UNIQUE users on the site at the SAME TIME. I know Bort has an open source testing program, but they need to test every known and unknown possibility and scenario. Maybe they aren't employees, but they at least have to be contractors.

What they need is recurring revenue. Why not charge a monthly fee to play GLB. Say $10/month or $100/year per agent. Say there are 100,000 agents; that means either 1 Million per month or 10 Million per year in recurring revenue. Shit, cut that in half and Bort is still doing awesome with recurring revenue. The question is why hasn't he gone that route and and why hasn't ESPN or some other large company NOT come along and scooped them up. There has to be some reason, I just don't know what it is........

But, they ain't making bank. Maybe a good side living; but it ain't bank.


Your point is taken but you are actually incorrect. You get 70% of FLEX back. So if you retired 20 players and then wanted to have those same 20 players for another full 10 seasons or what have you you would still have to buy another 30% of FLEX.

Secondly, I only counted 1/3 of players as boosting. This # was based on active agents. All your poitns are valid but already figured into my #s.

Third, there are only about 300,000 active player. This means there are probably about 100,000 agents at most. Even if half of them are on the site at any given time thats only 50,000 people as traffic.... Thats not that much. Servers would not cost more than 200k per year. If they did it wouldnt be much more.

Originally posted by Baustin
If you can't even figure out how many teams are in a league, then I'm pretty sure the rest of your numbers are complete bullshit also.

When you make a basic error like that it just shows you can't be trusted with math more complicated than counting to 32.


Feel free to check the numbers. If not, then dont troll a thread being a douche.

Seriously trolling..

Also the life of a paying player is prob around 11 seasons which is over a year. I think there's a revolving agent base, as some leave, some join.

Since he buys the servers it's a sunk cost so 200k probably works on a yearly basis.

But ya, makes bank.