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So first place has 9 tackles and 6 FF's and second place has 6 tackles amd 4 FF's which is respectable by any means but...

What I would like to know is how does a person like Taximus Devilee (my DE) end a game with 13 tackles 10 FF's and 2 hurries and is Third place in this silly defensive MVP race.

Your DE had 10 FFs in a game and you're complaining the *MVP race* is silly?

*headshake*

1st also has TFL and Fumble Recovery
2nd also has... 2 missed tackles?

Yeah, this is a very valid question, tbh.
I'm not seeing it.

maybe its not in any order? thats all i can figure

The ONLY thing I can think is that Bort has a modifier for level in his calculations and the significantly lower-leveled DE in 2nd place benefits there.
But that is just a poor guess pulled out of my butt because I don't see any other decent reason that it could be so, tbh.

I also have a guess that Bort's calculation may run a strength of opponent check. Since the team we played against only scored a few points, they would have a low rank. After a few games, as they fare better and as we play teams with better records, I think Taximus may rise in the standings.

Originally posted by Deschain
I also have a guess that Bort's calculation may run a strength of opponent check. Since the team we played against only scored a few points, they would have a low rank. After a few games, as they fare better and as we play teams with better records, I think Taximus may rise in the standings.

I seriously doubt he'd program that in just because... one, it would be stupid and only encourage bad results in the beginning (I think you have to give Bort enough credit to AT LEAST realise that). Two, I'm pretty sure he already thinks that we have balanced schedules and pretty much play the same teams (we do) and wouldn't think it was needed. Unlike the NFL, we only play one different team than everyone else in our conference would play and SoS is almost a non-factor at the end of a season.

Even more, he the fact that league MVP's and gamewide MVPs are factored slightly different leads me to believe that something like a player's level is factored in (which seems to be consistent with the way Bort thinks things should be handled in the game).

Well, just for some reference... My HB had the Most Yards & TDs in our Conference and isnt even in the Top 10 of the MVP race. The HB currently LEADING our Conference MVP Race is only a Lv. 28. My HB is a Lv. 55+. So, maybe strength of opponent or performance against certain leveled opponents matter. Meaning, since his HB is a 28, maybe he performed well against Lv. 50+s, where as my HB was a Lv. 55+ and performed well against Lv. 28's???

After checking, the opponents defensive starters that went against my Lv. 55+ HB were on average about Lv. 28.
Then I checked the opponents defensive starters, that started against the leader for the MVP Race, and his Lv. 28 HB played against Lv. 32 on average.

So, apparently, it DOES matter what your players Lv. is and the Lv. of the competition he pads his stats against.

Programming in average levels would totally be consistent with the way Bort programs everything else, IMO.

I pulled this from the Canada AA#1 forums. Not sure where the original poster got it from but

Originally posted by grindall
Originally posted by Bort
MVP isn't all about raw stats. It is about how much you contribute to your particular team's effort, and it includes the ranking amonst players at your same position. MVP is more about who is more valuable towards their team instead of who just got stats.

Let's say you have a QB who has 300 yds and 2 TD's. Great, he did good. However, in the game, his team scored 6 TD's, 4 of which were rushing TD's. The QB didn't have nearly as much to do with the total as the RB who got those TD's, so he gets fewer "MVP points" than the RB will. If the RB is also then ranked higher than other RB's in the league, the QB is bumped down the list and the RB is bumped up.

Also, blowout games are worth fractional points, so that gutted teams don't completely screw up the rankings.



Here is your answer.

Originally posted by Eamz
Also, blowout games are worth fractional points, so that gutted teams don't completely screw up the rankings.



Here is your answer.



This kinda sucks because clearly the team we just played was not gutted. If I cause 10 FF and 6 or 8 of which were scored on I should get just as much credit as the player scoring the points imo. without the FF he wouldn't have been able to score in the first place.

oh well.

Well, tbf, Bort seems to hate high levels (which is weird because you'd think he would like them as they are the ones giving him monies).

Originally posted by Tax
This kinda sucks because clearly the team we just played was not gutted.
If your team outlevels the opposition by 15 levels on average, they don't have to be gutted. Your player (and any other single player on the same team) wasn't particularly valuable - the team would have still crushed the opposition without him. So at least in the "Player most valuable to his team" context, this makes perfect sense to me to strongly devalue numbers put up against overmatched opposition, regardless of what the reason for the gap is. Of course, you have a point if you prefer the MVP variants of "Best player / best team" or "Best overall player", but for what my opinion is worth, I prefer Bort's more balanced version that doesn't reward people for simply being much higher level than the opposition.

less then a quarter of our roster is over lvl 48, mostly we have ppl in or around 40-45, all of our backups are 30-32 (the original team, with a few exceptions)....

The Blitzers average 37-40 pretty much across the board with some exceptions.

You could say we out leveled them by 5, or I would even let 10 slide without saying anything, but 15 is a tad ridiculous. At least get some solid info before you just look at our team profile page and assume everyone is 50