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lapham1
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I wanted to let any team that plays us know that my team won't run the exploit and you don't have any reason to worry about game planning for it. My coordinators and I believe this sim is for fun and the fun comes with game planning, talking trash, building the best players possible and winning. Using the slam exploit isn't any of these in my book. For the record my team does use the play on random plays like any other teams.

I swear that if my team runs this exploit exclusivey in running plays in a playoff game that I will cancel my account. I like to game plan. I'm not saying that we won't run it every now and then, but it is one of many plays that get used.

I know most of you will say who cares. Well I do. I hope that opponents that play me won't use it as people have used it up until now, but if they do then we will try and game plan for it and I will accept the loss without hard feelings. But my team won't realy on that to win. Our team may not be the best or worst but we do try.

I hope others follow suit. Good luck to the rest of the playoff teams!
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i'm sorry dude but this is just dumb. You just made game planning a hell of a lot easier for the Texans now that they will not have to worry about the possibility of you guys running the I-slam all game. I also doubt that they will agree to this and even if they do what will be considered 'using the exploit'?
 
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its going to be funny to see if this is a setup and what will happen from this.

I'd die laughing if they got the texans not to run it and they did it all game long, thats some D3 type shit right there.

But seriously I think the texans are going to do it all game long
 
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Originally posted by cannons call
i'm sorry dude but this is just dumb. You just made game planning a hell of a lot easier for the Texans now that they will not have to worry about the possibility of you guys running the I-slam all game. I also doubt that they will agree to this and even if they do what will be considered 'using the exploit'?


Dumb maybe, but it is a game and the fun is not running an exploit. That exploit is like cashing in a stealing money in monoploy. Is it really worth stealing that extra $500 from free parking to win the game?

I personally think it is dumb that I had to even post something this stupid, but with how the game is going I thought it might help some individuals understand how dumb it really is. People are quitting the game because of things like this. How will it be when only several people are playing and they are all running the same play? Is that fun-----nope. But I do agree with you.

The Texans have a very good team as do all the playoff teams--if they want to use that to win--good for them. I won't be using it.
 
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Well in both games against the Raiders and Nightmare our OC Blevstone posted a pretty detailed gameplan explaining the Major holes he found in your defenses. Im sure he will be on later to explain if not then Sorry. But I can promise we didnt just run the slam all game to win. He did it because your defenses were asking to be ran on straight up the middle. If you watch the game you will notice your LB's either playing deep or shifted to the left side of the field for the majority of the game.
 
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Originally posted by Lord Thomas Drake
its going to be funny to see if this is a setup and what will happen from this.

I'd die laughing if they got the texans not to run it and they did it all game long, thats some D3 type shit right there.

But seriously I think the texans are going to do it all game long


Once again anyone can do it if that is what they want it is part of the game. i will try and prevent it as much as possible like everyone else. i won't do it and if I do I PROMISE my account will be canceled next day! anyone can send this link to support as my signoff that I won't do it and I authorize my account to be canceled immediately if I run any play 40+ times!

I'm game planning for the game in hand--they are a great team and we will have our hands full.

Look at my 2 playoff games and count how many times we ran the play. That is about the extent of it.
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Just out of curiosity, did I miss the round of the playoffs where the Texans beat us?
 
Denman
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From an historical perspective, this "exploit" is rather silly in an on-line game. Teams used the wing formation to get the best of defenses back in the day. When that was effectively countered after many seasons of study, recruiting, etc., offenses developed the wishbone, then the triple option, then the pro set, then the west coast offense, etc. As the offense changed, the defense adapted (not right away, but over several seasons), and then the offenses responded.

Then again, they were playing for money, free tuition, etc. Here we are playing for pixels. It's much more serious.
 
lapham1
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Originally posted by Denman
From an historical perspective, this "exploit" is rather silly in an on-line game. Teams used the wing formation to get the best of defenses back in the day. When that was effectively countered after many seasons of study, recruiting, etc., offenses developed the wishbone, then the triple option, then the pro set, then the west coast offense, etc. As the offense changed, the defense adapted (not right away, but over several seasons), and then the offenses responded.

Then again, they were playing for money, free tuition, etc. Here we are playing for pixels. It's much more serious.


He said pixels---LOL
 
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We don't exploit anything....you guys are of course entitled to your opinion but there is no exploitation involved in any game that we decide to run heavy. The pure fact that we run heavy with our best RB in some games does NOT make it an exploit nor is it cheap in any way. I do my homework on teams and develop a gameplan that I think gives us the best chance to win...if you notice, we rarely, if ever, use the Strong I Slam and we'll never be an "exploit" team like that ever...just not our style even though we could probably do it to perfection with the RB we have in the backfield. Just not worth it.

In the Tusken Raiders game earlier where he complained so much about it....just look at their defensive setup against the Singleback and tell me they weren't asking for someone to run up the middle and destroy them. Just look at some of the defensive setups they have against that formation when they played us that we attacked:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=394768&pbp_id=9942066
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=394768&pbp_id=9942146
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=394768&pbp_id=9942216

And those are just the first 3 offensive plays of the game. If you're going to play the Dime defense against that formation, you really are going to be hard pressed to be upset when someone runs on you. Most plays he got 4-5 yards before even being touched.

Similar thing against the Nightmare in this past game....they ran the Cover 2 ALL THE TIME which means that a maximum of 7 players in the box for the running game. Add in that they don't blitz all that much or when they do they tended to shift weak side and blitz and it's an easy team to run against and so we saw it and attacked it. We do the same thing if we feel we can attack someone in the passing game...it's just good gameplanning.

So just for the record we'll echo the idea that we won't run all Strong I or anything ridiculous like that either...I'm not a fan of doing it but like the OP said, it doesn't mean we won't use it sometimes.
 
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Originally posted by blevstone
We don't exploit anything....you guys are of course entitled to your opinion but there is no exploitation involved in any game that we decide to run heavy. The pure fact that we run heavy with our best RB in some games does NOT make it an exploit nor is it cheap in any way. I do my homework on teams and develop a gameplan that I think gives us the best chance to win...if you notice, we rarely, if ever, use the Strong I Slam and we'll never be an "exploit" team like that ever...just not our style even though we could probably do it to perfection with the RB we have in the backfield. Just not worth it.

In the Tusken Raiders game earlier where he complained so much about it....just look at their defensive setup against the Singleback and tell me they weren't asking for someone to run up the middle and destroy them. Just look at some of the defensive setups they have against that formation when they played us that we attacked:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=394768&pbp_id=9942066
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=394768&pbp_id=9942146
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=394768&pbp_id=9942216

And those are just the first 3 offensive plays of the game. If you're going to play the Dime defense against that formation, you really are going to be hard pressed to be upset when someone runs on you. Most plays he got 4-5 yards before even being touched.

Similar thing against the Nightmare in this past game....they ran the Cover 2 ALL THE TIME which means that a maximum of 7 players in the box for the running game. Add in that they don't blitz all that much or when they do they tended to shift weak side and blitz and it's an easy team to run against and so we saw it and attacked it. We do the same thing if we feel we can attack someone in the passing game...it's just good gameplanning.

So just for the record we'll echo the idea that we won't run all Strong I or anything ridiculous like that either...I'm not a fan of doing it but like the OP said, it doesn't mean we won't use it sometimes.


Definitely agree with you. The games I have seen where teams run all Strong I and do no passing or just a total 180 from the reg season game planning to abuse the Strong I in the playoffs, dont agree with that imo.

Like blevstone said, you invite teams to run an already tough run to stop with a good defense (Strong I) when you dont have a clue to what to do on D. Depends on what the defenses run. If defenses just think a Cover 1 defense with 8 in the box is going to stop a run play, let alone the Strong I, well they are in trouble. There is more to it then to just bring the heavy blitz...dont want to get in too much detail but it kinda depends on who, where, and how you blitz. Still Strong I is overpowered and if there were some real nice passes, it would even things out. The o-line vs d-line battle also needs some improvements but this another story

It starts with how teams even defend the Strong I, if it isnt even close to the right idea, what do you expect teams to do. Yeah, Strong I needs its fixes though
 
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Agreed....I do believe a fix for that sort of thing is on the way though. I'll look forward to the time where variety as an OC is actually a really effective approach...it used to be and that took a hit this year so I'm hopeful it will make a comeback next season.
 
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Originally posted by blevstone
We don't exploit anything....you guys are of course entitled to your opinion but there is no exploitation involved in any game that we decide to run heavy. The pure fact that we run heavy with our best RB in some games does NOT make it an exploit nor is it cheap in any way. I do my homework on teams and develop a gameplan that I think gives us the best chance to win...if you notice, we rarely, if ever, use the Strong I Slam and we'll never be an "exploit" team like that ever...just not our style even though we could probably do it to perfection with the RB we have in the backfield. Just not worth it.

In the Tusken Raiders game earlier where he complained so much about it....just look at their defensive setup against the Singleback and tell me they weren't asking for someone to run up the middle and destroy them. Just look at some of the defensive setups they have against that formation when they played us that we attacked:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=394768&pbp_id=9942066
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=394768&pbp_id=9942146
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=394768&pbp_id=9942216

And those are just the first 3 offensive plays of the game. If you're going to play the Dime defense against that formation, you really are going to be hard pressed to be upset when someone runs on you. Most plays he got 4-5 yards before even being touched.

Similar thing against the Nightmare in this past game....they ran the Cover 2 ALL THE TIME which means that a maximum of 7 players in the box for the running game. Add in that they don't blitz all that much or when they do they tended to shift weak side and blitz and it's an easy team to run against and so we saw it and attacked it. We do the same thing if we feel we can attack someone in the passing game...it's just good gameplanning.

So just for the record we'll echo the idea that we won't run all Strong I or anything ridiculous like that either...I'm not a fan of doing it but like the OP said, it doesn't mean we won't use it sometimes.


I'm not complaining about our game anymore i'm cool with what you did, you owned us with singleback not the slam, and your right we left it open for you.

 
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Call it what you will, but I'm guessing if the Nightmares and Toro's play again next year with the same exact game plans as yesterday's playoff game, things will turn out completely different.
 
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