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Unlucky Trixy, you were just another victim....

THIC your next...
 
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*coughexploitcough*
 
hemprobot
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Exploit?
 
jaimevick
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TI is doing work. Hats off to those guys
 
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i hear some of the illegitimate children got notes from their momma so they don t got to play us...
 
TheTogfather
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Yo, THIC. Stack 3 guys over each tackle. Ignore the rest of their O. Beat the cheat.
 
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ok which play is the supposed exploit play?
this was supposed to be a friendly thread for some smack talk. Just link some examples of the exploit play.

Also is our defence also using some miraculus exploit that it has been holding teams to low scores. we in he impalers have worked through a season where we got one win to just about not getiing into the playoffs in our second season, this season we got in some more talent and the slow build players started to come good and we came third now its all about some exploit play. come on people we use a lot of plays on offense if running up the gut is an exploit then i can see where your coming from, we go up the middle a lot. if its the off tackle off pro then how come my def ai has a play against it, that works you just need the players or the halfback screen again that is beatable with the right players.
prove your case

@ jaimevick
unlucky not to make it man, i was dreading having to make the adjustments to our ai to counter your o.

@ L'vov
i used to respect you guys, but you guys are all whinney, when we met you during the season we beat you well, most of the game stats (defense as well as offense were in our favour). we worked hard to build this team, knew that building your stadium and having a solid o and d line is the essense of good football. we looked at each team and found their style of play and tried to build our tactics for each game from what we saw. now you say it is all down to an exploit.

@ THIC
good luck tomorrow, we had an interesting encounter during the regular season, I hope the final is as good a game.
 
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I only really know what my players tell me, but I think it's the strong I off tackle. Not to completely rip on your team because you did play a good game, but something is desperately wrong when anyone, any team at all, gets over 300 yards rushing against our D. There's word across the entire game that the strong I off tackle is pretty much broke and impossible to stop. It's fairly easy to keep teams to low scores when you're able to rush the ball up the field every drive, sucking up clock. Maybe there's more to it, maybe there are some truly fantastic builds on your team, but when we met up the average level of your team didn't make me think there was any chance it was going to be a competitive game. The way you ran the ball against us non-stop all game long seems to back this up pretty well...it just should not have been that lopsided.

Sure, you beat us and we're bitter about it...even though it was just one part of our annual nose-dive into the bottom half of the playoff seeding. The play does exist for everyone to use, so I guess Cheat is a bit strong of a word, but exploit fits fairly well. There's a pretty large outcry for it to get fixed this off-season.

Edit: And just because I started feeling guilty like I might be casting out blame unfairly, I went back and checked, and pretty much all but 2 or so rushing plays had your guys lining up in the Strong I (HB straight back behind the QB, FB shaded off to the right) and running the ball directly behind your right tackle. Most of these plays show up as 'rush to the right' but often the HB would cut inside and it would show up as 'rush to the middle' but they are the exact same play and it is the play that has been pretty unanimously declared as an exploit on the forums because no defense can reliably stop it. You, as a team or just your OC, knew exactly what you were doing when gameplanning to keep running this play over and over and over. 62 rushes compared to 14 pass attempts, I would say probably 60 of those running plays were the play in question. Sure, 5 yards per carry isn't totally ridiculous, but it's because that play cannot be reliably stopped. Yes it may be arrogance, but we would not have been run over like that if it was not for this one constant play that you kept running on every single drive. That's what I see when I look at the play-by-play and box score of our game. Feel free to call me a liar, but it's right there.
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@ L'vov
Here is what others in this game think of off tackle runs.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1220958

When we played you we saw that you ran a nickle def a lot of the time with 7 in the box versus the strong I. Whenever we ran against that 3 3 1 front we were bound to get yards, look at the game and you will see how you gave up most of the yards you did to the off tackle run while you were in a PASS defence. Now I may still be wrong but in real football and in this simulation of football if you want to stop the run you STACK THE BOX more not bring on an extra CB.

Learn some football logic then adapt it to GLB logic and your team will do better. Don t just assume that if a team puts 300 yards on the ground against you there must be an exploit, find what your team is doing wrong and address it. We spent 3 seasons focused on building the impalers building players to fill very secific roles and building Def and Off AI's that have been and in some cases are being used by teams in the western Europe pro's.



 
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Ok, I went and broke down that game to get the actual stats, perhaps something your own DC('s) should have done rather than cry like girls?

Rushing (62 Total)

QB Scramble: 3
QB Sack : 2

HB Strong I: 34
HB I Form: 10
HB Pro Set: 8
Singleback: 5

That makes a total of 55% of our runs from String I. And not all of those are Off-Tackle either, a lot of them are HB Blast plays. Also at least a 100 and probably closer to half, our running yards came from the outside Pro-Set and Singleback runs, a weakness I had identified in your D when I studied it. Our running game is the best in his Division because we have an excellent O-Line, 2 extremely good HB's, and by far the best blocking FB. Frankly, this all just seems like sour grapes to me.

Lastly, to reiterate the point that Beric made, we are a small squad that has been building in a very specific way for 3 seasons, only bringing in quality players that fit into our idea of what football is. We have done things like develop our stadium and build a solid team core rather than employ the smash and grab, hope to avoid insolvency tactic you guys chose. We have been a long time patiently building to where we are and we have been rewarded for that cohesion. Whatever you people want to say or think I know that in the 4 or 5 hours I spend game-planning every game that I am looking for ways to do what my team does best and when to do it. I'm not a cheat and I won't apologise for being more successful than you.
 
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From THIC... good luck to you Trannies...

You guys have been solid all season... and have had our number earlier this season.

I don't know what to think about a possible "exploit"... but I figure the game is what it is... and we'll accept whatever the outcome is. If you want to run off tackle from the strong I formation every play... then feel free to do so.

Good luck to you guys... I'm looking forward to seeing the outcome tomorrow.
 
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I have no problem with you guys beating L'vov since I do the O work and could care less about what you guys do on O. But saying we do a smash and grab approach to roster building is fairly retarded since we've had almost exactly the same people on the squad since the league opened.
 
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the smash and grab was at your owners policy of spending all his cash on players and ignoring stadium upgrades. its not an atack on your roster more a comment on the short sightedness of not building a bigger stadium to be able to afford to pay the players as they grow in levels, basicaly every year the players need bigger salaries and if you can t find ways to make more money eventually you will loose the players.
 
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Actually we've had pretty much the same roster because we're all friends outside of game, our small stadium is 100% because our owner had a brainfart and forgot to upgrade the stadium last day of off-season.

Pretty much the entire roster would go 100% without pay if asked because aside from equipment upgrade dotball funbux are meaningless.
 
da raiders
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ambien's hungry! let's run the strong i off tackle play.
 
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