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yello1
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How important is Agility to an Offensive Player who is pass blocking?

How important is Agility to a Defensive Player who is pass rushing?

How important is Agility to a Defensive Player who is run containing?

Why? What does it match up against on the opponent?
 
PackMan97
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Mega Important!

Can't have too much!

It's HUGE!

Agility is used in part to determine the break/hold tackle as well as for getting around/staying in front of your opponent.

A very agile pass rusher is gonna be able to break a block and then get around the outside. However, against an agile pass blocker, he'll have a tougher time breaking the block and getting around the blocker.
 
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Okay - so for a Center or Guard, Soft capping Blocking/Strength and then Agility would be the top three targets? Same as for an OT pretty much then? Though maybe OT gets Agility ahead of Strength? Or ahead of Blocking?
 
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Originally posted by yello1
Okay - so for a Center or Guard, Soft capping Blocking/Strength and then Agility would be the top three targets? Same as for an OT pretty much then? Though maybe OT gets Agility ahead of Strength? Or ahead of Blocking?


Nah... the more you play inside, the longer you'd better add to strength and blocking first. For OTs, agility maybe equally important - but not so for guards and center.
 
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Softcapping an attribute isn't what it used to be. Getting something to 48 is worthless. The correct strategy is to think about taking your first stuff to 60, and working from there.

All 3 positions get str/blk to 60 ASAP. Then either agi to 40, 50 or 60 depending on how far out you are! Will take longer... but going to 48 is just worthless really, unless you wanna keep going in short steps, and you'll hurt for it in the long run.

Big steps! you'll get farther. And get owned your first season =)
 
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Originally posted by RAPB
Originally posted by yello1

Okay - so for a Center or Guard, Soft capping Blocking/Strength and then Agility would be the top three targets? Same as for an OT pretty much then? Though maybe OT gets Agility ahead of Strength? Or ahead of Blocking?


Nah... the more you play inside, the longer you'd better add to strength and blocking first. For OTs, agility maybe equally important - but not so for guards and center.


got it pretty close to what i think

for me

center:
str
blocking
[GAP]
SA and other stuff

guard (LG):
str
block = AGI
[GAP]
SA and other stuff

OT:
Blocking
Agi
[Small GAP]
STR = SA and other stuff
 
yello1
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Thanks

Anyone else have thoughts?
 
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For a right (pulling) guard, you need your share of speed and agility to get out in front of the HB. Short line distance, so more agility, but both are needed.
 
yello1
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In light of the recent vet abilities.

Do I keep adding on Agility with the vet stuff (Quick) or is it better to boost general stuff like Clutch or what?
 
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Originally posted by PackMan97
Mega Important!

Can't have too much!

It's HUGE!

Agility is used in part to determine the break/hold tackle as well as for getting around/staying in front of your opponent.

A very agile pass rusher is gonna be able to break a block and then get around the outside. However, against an agile pass blocker, he'll have a tougher time breaking the block and getting around the blocker.


No other thoughts really to give. this is truth.
 
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don't ignore STR though, or the DE will just push you aside. Never forget you are backpedaling and he is running full speed at you. So, you have to have more STR than the DE, he needs more SPD/AGL than you. BUt generally I'd say get AGL to 70 or 80 counting EQ and vet abilities.
 
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Originally posted by yello1
In light of the recent vet abilities.

Do I keep adding on Agility with the vet stuff (Quick) or is it better to boost general stuff like Clutch or what?
you won't have enough VPs for awhile to not get +15 Great Blocker and +15 Quick
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by PackMan97

Mega Important!

Can't have too much!

It's HUGE!

Agility is used in part to determine the break/hold tackle as well as for getting around/staying in front of your opponent.

A very agile pass rusher is gonna be able to break a block and then get around the outside. However, against an agile pass blocker, he'll have a tougher time breaking the block and getting around the blocker.


No other thoughts really to give. this is truth.


It was the truth back in November when the post was made. Now, I still see builds with super low Agility (sub 30) and Speed stopping DE's and DT's easily.

 
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Originally posted by Octowned
Softcapping an attribute isn't what it used to be. Getting something to 48 is worthless. The correct strategy is to think about taking your first stuff to 60, and working from there.

All 3 positions get str/blk to 60 ASAP. Then either agi to 40, 50, 60 or 68 depending on how far out you are! Will take longer... but going to 48 is just worthless really, unless you wanna keep going in short steps, and you'll hurt for it in the long run.

Big steps! you'll get farther. And get owned your first season =)


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Originally posted by qubanti
It was the truth back in November when the post was made. Now, I still see builds with super low Agility (sub 30) and Speed stopping DE's and DT's easily.


When you're in Canadian BBB and the levels are low, no D.E's are getting through really. Agility has just been discovered (last season? im sure some guys knew a long, just didn't share)as being good for an o-linemen. so where you came up with this bullshit I don't know. I see some Tackles with 80+ agility in the Pros they are unpassable, period.
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