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When I first created him I put the 15 SPs into stamina. Maybe a mistake, but I felt keeping him on the field for as long as possible would be the best thing for him. Plus since I gain stamina every level naturally I will never have to worry about training or putting points into it again. Maybe a mistake, but I don't think/hope it can't be overcome.

Since his creation I have trained strength/blocking on intense and nothing else.

After rollover tonight strength will be a natural 24 and I will have 25 skill points to spend. I plan on softcapping strength tomorrow.

From there I will train blocking/agility until the offseason. I will boost three times during the offseason. I will save those 15 SPs until 4 games into the next season where I will have leveled another two times.

At which point I will have 25 SPs to spend. From leveling 5x strength will be at 51. I can then spend 20 of those SPs to bring strength to 61.

All the while training blocking/agility I will sit on those 5 SPs until I have leveled enough times to softcap blocking at 49. After boosting the following offseason I will most likely have enough SPs to bring blocking to 61.

After doing that I will switch my training to agility/vision. I will save all my SPs from leveling and boosting (offseason only) until I can get agility to 49.

From there I will switch my training to vision/confidence and start spending my SPs on SAs. I plan on mainly training vision/confidence for the rest of my career.

Sound like a good plan? Please help me out, any advice will be greatly appreciated.
 
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I don't have a tackle, but I think speed needs to fit in somewhere if you want to take out speedy ends. Possibly speed/agility instead of agility/vision, then train vision/confidence.
 
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Wow, completely forgot about speed. How much do you think I would need to get by? Is like 35 sufficient?
 
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Originally posted by nflcardholder
Wow, completely forgot about speed. How much do you think I would need to get by? Is like 35 sufficient?


No clue. I hope to find out after I 2nd cap agility.
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Originally posted by nflcardholder
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=955898

When I first created him I put the 15 SPs into stamina. Maybe a mistake, but I felt keeping him on the field for as long as possible would be the best thing for him. Plus since I gain stamina every level naturally I will never have to worry about training or putting points into it again. Maybe a mistake, but I don't think/hope it can't be overcome.

Since his creation I have trained strength/blocking on intense and nothing else.

After rollover tonight strength will be a natural 24 and I will have 25 skill points to spend. I plan on softcapping strength tomorrow.

From there I will train blocking/agility until the offseason. I will boost three times during the offseason. I will save those 15 SPs until 4 games into the next season where I will have leveled another two times.

At which point I will have 25 SPs to spend. From leveling 5x strength will be at 51. I can then spend 20 of those SPs to bring strength to 61.

All the while training blocking/agility I will sit on those 5 SPs until I have leveled enough times to softcap blocking at 49. After boosting the following offseason I will most likely have enough SPs to bring blocking to 61.

After doing that I will switch my training to agility/vision. I will save all my SPs from leveling and boosting (offseason only) until I can get agility to 49.

From there I will switch my training to vision/confidence and start spending my SPs on SAs. I plan on mainly training vision/confidence for the rest of my career.

Sound like a good plan? Please help me out, any advice will be greatly appreciated.


That's fantastic if you want to play ROT. is that what you're shooting for?

If you want to play L.O.T.
I'm doing this with my guy
Im going to train str and blocking. then cap blocking followed by str, followed by agility, then speed.

then after all four are capped I will cap blocking again, then cap agility again, and train my other stats to 30. while trying to work on my protect s.a.
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by nflcardholder

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=955898

When I first created him I put the 15 SPs into stamina. Maybe a mistake, but I felt keeping him on the field for as long as possible would be the best thing for him. Plus since I gain stamina every level naturally I will never have to worry about training or putting points into it again. Maybe a mistake, but I don't think/hope it can't be overcome.

Since his creation I have trained strength/blocking on intense and nothing else.

After rollover tonight strength will be a natural 24 and I will have 25 skill points to spend. I plan on softcapping strength tomorrow.

From there I will train blocking/agility until the offseason. I will boost three times during the offseason. I will save those 15 SPs until 4 games into the next season where I will have leveled another two times.

At which point I will have 25 SPs to spend. From leveling 5x strength will be at 51. I can then spend 20 of those SPs to bring strength to 61.

All the while training blocking/agility I will sit on those 5 SPs until I have leveled enough times to softcap blocking at 49. After boosting the following offseason I will most likely have enough SPs to bring blocking to 61.

After doing that I will switch my training to agility/vision. I will save all my SPs from leveling and boosting (offseason only) until I can get agility to 49.

From there I will switch my training to vision/confidence and start spending my SPs on SAs. I plan on mainly training vision/confidence for the rest of my career.

Sound like a good plan? Please help me out, any advice will be greatly appreciated.


That's fantastic if you want to play ROT. is that what you're shooting for?

If you want to play L.O.T.
I'm doing this with my guy
Im going to train str and blocking. then cap blocking followed by str, followed by agility, then speed.

then after all four are capped I will cap blocking again, then cap agility again, and train my other stats to 30. while trying to work on my protect s.a.


Strong lack of vision.

Can be as fast as you want, as strong as you want, but if he can't see the play you're fucked.
 
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i guess you missed the part where I said i was going to bring all the others to 30.
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
i guess you missed the part where I said i was going to bring all the others to 30.


Capping speed before doing all your caps seems odd to me. Speed is not a major or minor skill for an OT, so there is no benefit to capping early. 2nd capping blocking and agility before capping speed will be better for your player in the long run. May not be as good in the short run, but at lowish levels when you are still taking care of this stuff, just having 2nd capped blk/agi with capped str will be enough to be good.
 
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Originally posted by Melancholy
Originally posted by UnderDogs

i guess you missed the part where I said i was going to bring all the others to 30.


Capping speed before doing all your caps seems odd to me. Speed is not a major or minor skill for an OT, so there is no benefit to capping early. 2nd capping blocking and agility before capping speed will be better for your player in the long run. May not be as good in the short run, but at lowish levels when you are still taking care of this stuff, just having 2nd capped blk/agi with capped str will be enough to be good.


STR>BLK imo
 
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Originally posted by Melancholy
Originally posted by UnderDogs

i guess you missed the part where I said i was going to bring all the others to 30.


Capping speed before doing all your caps seems odd to me. Speed is not a major or minor skill for an OT, so there is no benefit to capping early. 2nd capping blocking and agility before capping speed will be better for your player in the long run. May not be as good in the short run, but at lowish levels when you are still taking care of this stuff, just having 2nd capped blk/agi with capped str will be enough to be good.


I guess you missed the part where I said I would cap str and blocking first.

capping speed is the last thing to be capped, but I guess you missed where I said it was for L.O.T. i know it doesn't get any bonus' but if you play L.O.T. you need a lot of speed.
 
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Originally posted by Snipeshow
Originally posted by Melancholy

Originally posted by UnderDogs


i guess you missed the part where I said i was going to bring all the others to 30.


Capping speed before doing all your caps seems odd to me. Speed is not a major or minor skill for an OT, so there is no benefit to capping early. 2nd capping blocking and agility before capping speed will be better for your player in the long run. May not be as good in the short run, but at lowish levels when you are still taking care of this stuff, just having 2nd capped blk/agi with capped str will be enough to be good.


STR>BLK imo


Not for l.o.t.'s blocking is better.
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Melancholy

Originally posted by UnderDogs


i guess you missed the part where I said i was going to bring all the others to 30.


Capping speed before doing all your caps seems odd to me. Speed is not a major or minor skill for an OT, so there is no benefit to capping early. 2nd capping blocking and agility before capping speed will be better for your player in the long run. May not be as good in the short run, but at lowish levels when you are still taking care of this stuff, just having 2nd capped blk/agi with capped str will be enough to be good.


I guess you missed the part where I said I would cap str and blocking first.

capping speed is the last thing to be capped, but I guess you missed where I said it was for L.O.T. i know it doesn't get any bonus' but if you play L.O.T. you need a lot of speed.


I guess you missed the part where you said that you would cap speed before you 2nd capped blk and agi. This is the part I was commenting on. I'm fully aware of the need for speed at higher levels. But I still feel that it is way more important to 2nd cap blocking and agility than it is to cap speed. It is a more effective use of SPs. This is especially true since the auto level bonus goes down at level 22 and reportedly at level 30 as well.
 
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Originally posted by Melancholy
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by Melancholy


Originally posted by UnderDogs



i guess you missed the part where I said i was going to bring all the others to 30.


Capping speed before doing all your caps seems odd to me. Speed is not a major or minor skill for an OT, so there is no benefit to capping early. 2nd capping blocking and agility before capping speed will be better for your player in the long run. May not be as good in the short run, but at lowish levels when you are still taking care of this stuff, just having 2nd capped blk/agi with capped str will be enough to be good.


I guess you missed the part where I said I would cap str and blocking first.

capping speed is the last thing to be capped, but I guess you missed where I said it was for L.O.T. i know it doesn't get any bonus' but if you play L.O.T. you need a lot of speed.


I guess you missed the part where you said that you would cap speed before you 2nd capped blk and agi. This is the part I was commenting on. I'm fully aware of the need for speed at higher levels. But I still feel that it is way more important to 2nd cap blocking and agility than it is to cap speed. It is a more effective use of SPs. This is especially true since the auto level bonus goes down at level 22 and reportedly at level 30 as well.


Well I am not a strong believer in the traditional linemen builds anymore. When I was a new player I would listen to players talk about getting the str and blocking double and triple capped before anything else. That's a great plan , of course. But if you want to be able to start on a good team by level 20-24 or so, and you're a L.O.T. you should have good speed. I have seen so many tackles go the all out str and blocking route, only to find themselves getting beat at higher levels. Tackles are getting robbed, because speed should be a minor attribute instead of tackling. Then their wouldn't be a problem with capping speed.
also if im a L.O.T im getting protect up fairly quick, and I want the Blocking, speed, and agility for it to be effective?
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Originally posted by UnderDogs

Well I am not a strong believer in the traditional linemen builds anymore. When I was a new player I would listen to players talk about getting the str and blocking double and triple capped before anything else. That's a great plan , of course. But if you want to be able to start on a good team by level 20-24 or so, and you're a L.O.T. you should have good speed. I have seen so many tackles go the all out str and blocking route, only to find themselves getting beat at higher levels. Tackles are getting robbed, because speed should be a minor attribute instead of tackling. Then their wouldn't be a problem with capping speed.
also if im a L.O.T im getting protect up fairly quick, and I want the Blocking, speed, and agility for it to be effective?


I agree that tackles are getting robbed. I would love to see the speed go up every level. And while I understand wanting to utilize protect to it's fullest, I've actually been happy with high block and agility and relatively low speed (around 25). The bonus I get from 7 protect seems to work relatively well.

This past season, there was only one DE that really punished my LOT, and I haven't seen my LOT really move all that far. These things combined make me wonder how important speed really is to an LOT. I do think it is fairly important, but for now, I'm still happier spending points taking agility to the second cap than I am spending any points on speed before it's been trained up to 30. I just don't like feeling like I wasted the SP there.
 
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Originally posted by Melancholy
Originally posted by UnderDogs


Well I am not a strong believer in the traditional linemen builds anymore. When I was a new player I would listen to players talk about getting the str and blocking double and triple capped before anything else. That's a great plan , of course. But if you want to be able to start on a good team by level 20-24 or so, and you're a L.O.T. you should have good speed. I have seen so many tackles go the all out str and blocking route, only to find themselves getting beat at higher levels. Tackles are getting robbed, because speed should be a minor attribute instead of tackling. Then their wouldn't be a problem with capping speed.
also if im a L.O.T im getting protect up fairly quick, and I want the Blocking, speed, and agility for it to be effective?


I agree that tackles are getting robbed. I would love to see the speed go up every level. And while I understand wanting to utilize protect to it's fullest, I've actually been happy with high block and agility and relatively low speed (around 25). The bonus I get from 7 protect seems to work relatively well.

This past season, there was only one DE that really punished my LOT, and I haven't seen my LOT really move all that far. These things combined make me wonder how important speed really is to an LOT. I do think it is fairly important, but for now, I'm still happier spending points taking agility to the second cap than I am spending any points on speed before it's been trained up to 30. I just don't like feeling like I wasted the SP there.


alright. You're making me reconsider speed. I just think with all these Speed agility d.e's going around it's a problem with speed. I will definitely be capping agility to second cap , probably even before my str. and after I second cap blocking.

I think you're right about the speed. My center played R.G. for most of the year with 30 speed and he never have a problem pulling, he would always pull and be there to block before the hand off.
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