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DLight03
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Disclaimer: Ranked before today's games.

1.) The Cape Town Cubicles

Currently far and away the best defensive line in EEA #8, The Cubicles' dominant d-line is spear-headed by the one-two combination of Rufus's Home Solutions and Sack Zilla. The most potent duo in the league, these two juggernauts have already recorded 44 of the team's 52 sacks on the season -- a number you can expect to go up much higher after today's match against the increasingly organically maligned Orange Blood Nation.

While it's true the combination of Zilla and Rufus is not the leading sack combination in the league as of this post, I think it's difficult to question their status as top dog. With 89 hurries registered by Cape Town, Zilla and Rufus account for 66 of them (which alone is more than any other team with 30+ sacks in the league). Over 75 tackles have been recorded between these two ends alone, and they play a big part in why this unit is #1 in rush defense in the league (under 30 yards a game).

2.) Springfield Isotopes

The Isotopes lead the league in sacks (59 to 52), but after Cape Town's match today that might come into question. What makes Springfield's defensive line so good, is the variety in which they are able to consistently put pressure on opponents.

While DEs Grueso The Sick and Githinji Kamaeu bookend the line, accounting for 47 sacks, 13 TFL and nearly 90 tackles, it's far from a two-man show. Outside of these two, Springfield has over 30 hurries, 12 sacks and 17 forced fumbles registered from 12 different players. That's 12 different players capable of contributing on any given play, something that can make gameplanning with offensive line shifts very difficult to do.

Despite temporarily having the most sacks in the league, this d-line must produce more hurries if it expects to take over Cape Town anytime soon (66 to 89). Currently sitting snugly as the second best rush defense in the league, they should have plenty of opportunities to do so.

3.) Kharkiv Thrashers

While the Thrashers are a step below on the defensive line from the two teams mentioned above, they're able to hang on tightly to the #3 spot thanks to DE Eddie Ellis, perhaps the best defensive end in EEA#8 history.

After only 10 games, Ellis leads the league in sacks with 31 (better than 29 entire teams), has 53 tackles, 11 TFLs and 26 hurries registered to his name. To put that into perspective, that is more tackles for loss than Grueso, Rufus and Sack Zilla combined.

With Ellis on the roster, this defensive line could reach elite level with a few more pieces. Currently, the left defensive end position only has 25 combined tackles on the season. That's combined tackles, from the entire depth at the position, and Ellis accounts for 31 of the team's 34 total sacks. This team cannot afford an off day by Ellis, and matches up very poorly against a team with an OT capable of shutting him down (although we haven't seen it truly happen yet). This team gets real scary when other players begin stepping up.

4.) Sevastopol Wolverines

The Wolverines may only have 24 sacks (good for 5th in the league), but they make up for it by having an incredible amount of hurries. With 87 pressures on the season, the Wolverines are second only to Cape Town in non-sack disruption. No player has over 10 sacks on the team, but they remain one of the league's top pressure units, as evidenced by the 10 interceptions thrown to their secondary. This unit has a great collection of roleplayers, and defensive ends that can almost get there, but not quite finish. If this team could somehow pull a trade in the offseason for an Eddie Ellis-type impact player, you could be looking at a premier unit next season.
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sdt74
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Great analysis and great read. Kudos DLight. Check the Crows vs. Trashers game though, to see how Eddie Ellis fared.
 
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Average Level - Defensive Line.

Cubicles = 22.3
'Topes = 21.1
Thrashers = 20
Wolverines = 21

Jokers = 16

4th in Hurries, 5th in sacks. 3rd fewest rushing yards allowed.

No love for the Mario Party. :/
 
Athrian
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Excellent analysis. The Thrashers have been making some adjustments recently both as a team and to individuals, so hopefully we see more consistency from Ellis and the other members of the D-line. Looking forward to the playoffs!
 
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Hmm...having scouted most of those teams, I have to say I agree with the cubicles but not so much with the Wolverines or Isotops. Each of those lines have ok starters but are lacking depth! If you look at where those sacks for example came then you'll see that its mostly against cupcakes!

Now I know I might be a little biased but if you look at Romes D-Line: 27 and 24 as Starters inside and 25 and 27 at End! All those being backed up by 23,24 and 25's. They might not have stellar stats but the LB's do and that's all the Raider D-Line really cares about!

BTW average Level 25!
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DLight03
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Originally posted by Nanasty
Hmm...having scouted most of those teams, I have to say I agree with the cubicles but not so much with the Wolverines or Isotops. Each of those lines have ok starters but are lacking depth! If you look at where those sacks for example came then you'll see that its mostly against cupcakes!

Now I know I might be a little biased but if you look at Romes D-Line: 27 and 24 as Starters inside and 25 and 27 at End! All those being backed up by 23,24 and 25's. They might not have stellar stats but the LB's do and that's all the Raider D-Line really cares about!

BTW average Level 25!


I would say the Isotopes get less sacks against better teams, but for the most part that's true for just about everyone. Every team gets the same opportunities as other teams in their conference to put up numbers, with the exception of the final week which is a random draw from the other conference.

For example, Isotopes put up 20 of their sacks against es cargo.

Cubicles put up 21 on Orange Blood Nation.

Both teams still have another game left against one of those two weak o-lines. It balances out (at least for teams in the same conference it does).
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Originally posted by DLight03


I would say the Isotopes get less sacks against better teams, but for the most part that's true for just about everyone. Every team gets the same opportunities as other teams in their conference to put up numbers, with the exception of the final week which is a random draw from the other conference.

For example, Isotopes put up 20 of their sacks against es cargo.

Cubicles put up 21 on Orange Blood Nation.

Both teams still have another game left against one of those two weak o-lines. It balances out (at least for teams in the same conference it does).



I have to disagree with this... Some opportunities are not equal... Half of us played against Orange Blood Nation when they were not CPU owned and was a complete team. They released almost ALL their players after they played us... so everyone playing them after week 8 played CPU's. Nothing against the Cubes, because they are a good team just proving a case, so i.e. Cubes got them when they were almost completlely CPU's. How is that an equal opportunity for stats?
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opportunities are *basically* equal.

1- the orange sucked even before they unloaded. granted now they suck more
2- go look at our play by play against them and come back when you find the funny parts. if we took it seriously, we couldve doubled our sacks and score total
3- are you really THIS concerned about an unofficial official d-line breakdown when the season is barely half over to warrant a complaint? i sure dont see any cubicles disagreeing because our alpha game is against an 8-3 team and yours is against a 3-8 team.

here i'll make it more equal for you, just because i'm a nice guy.

cubes average yards/run against raiders 4.6
raiders average yards/run against cubes 0.9
 
arlacuesta
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Originally posted by bacardi
opportunities are *basically* equal.

1- the orange sucked even before they unloaded. granted now they suck more
2- go look at our play by play against them and come back when you find the funny parts. if we took it seriously, we couldve doubled our sacks and score total
3- are you really THIS concerned about an unofficial official d-line breakdown when the season is barely half over to warrant a complaint? i sure dont see any cubicles disagreeing because our alpha game is against an 8-3 team and yours is against a 3-8 team.

here i'll make it more equal for you, just because i'm a nice guy.

cubes average yards/run against raiders 4.6
raiders average yards/run against cubes 0.9


Maybe you're having a pretty hard time reading...

Originally posted by arlacuesta


Nothing against the Cubes, because they are a good team just proving a case


I could've easily made the example with the "WOLVES" but thought it would be more interesting w/ the CUBES as an example....


 
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Originally posted by arlacuesta
Maybe you're having a pretty hard time reading...

Originally posted by arlacuesta



Nothing against the Cubes, because they are a good team just proving a case


I could've easily made the example with the "WOLVES" but thought it would be more interesting w/ the CUBES as an example....




interesting. thank you, i agree we're a good team. that said, my post isnt about how good we are. perhaps its your reading that needs improvement. i'm discussing:

Originally posted by arlacuesta
I have to disagree with this... Some opportunities are not equal


Originally posted by bacardi
opportunities are *basically* equal.

i can restate the points so that it will read easier.

1- the opportunity against the orange wasnt that different because the orange team sucked before, and they sucked (more) after.
2- the opportunity didnt help the cubes more than the raiders because we were playing with joke game plans
3- the opportunities are basically equal because we havent even reached inter-league games where differences might be exposed
4- the opportunities are basically equal because we can compare head-to-head results
 
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Funny...

Originally posted by bacardi
interesting. thank you, i agree we're a good team. that said, my post isnt about how good we are.


Originally posted by bacardi

here i'll make it more equal for you, just because i'm a nice guy.

cubes average yards/run against raiders 4.6
raiders average yards/run against cubes 0.9


Did we stray from the topic a little? or Do you just like talking about how much your better than us?

Originally posted by bacardi

1- the opportunity against the orange wasnt that different because the orange team sucked before, and they sucked (more) after.
2- the opportunity didnt help the cubes more than the raiders because we were playing with joke game plans
3- the opportunities are basically equal because we havent even reached inter-league games where differences might be exposed
4- the opportunities are basically equal because we can compare head-to-head results


We're talking about opportunities being equal right?

1. Where was half the teams opportunity to play against CPU's.
- Es Cargo would've had their 1st win.
- Belgrade Blaze would be 1 game away from making playoffs and Dragons 83 would have 1 less loss.
2. We didn't have the opportunity to pad stats or "play with a joke game plan"
3. So you're in agreement w/ me that opportunities aren't equal? Case Dissmissed!
4. How do you compare head-to-head results when you played against CPU's and "WE" didn't.

*** "WE" meaning the first 8 opponents of Orange Blood (when they were a complete team)
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My TE has no sacks. He just needs equal opportunity.
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bacardi
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i'll try one last time, and then i give up.

Originally posted by arlacuesta
Originally posted by bacardi


here i'll make it more equal for you, just because i'm a nice guy.

cubes average yards/run against raiders 4.6
raiders average yards/run against cubes 0.9


Did we stray from the topic a little? or Do you just like talking about how much your better than us?

theres no need to point out the obvious. although my point, that i am telling you for the second time, is to give you a way to compare our d-lines without any of this "unfairness" you keep talking about. feel free to replace cubes with another team.

Originally posted by arlacuesta
1. Where was half the teams opportunity to play against CPU's.
- Es Cargo would've had their 1st win.

lol i doubt it

Originally posted by arlacuesta
2. We didn't have the opportunity to pad stats or "play with a joke game plan"

and we didnt have the opportunity to use a real game plan. which is why, in general, the opportunities are *basically* equal.

Originally posted by arlacuesta
3. So you're in agreement w/ me that opportunities aren't equal? Case Dissmissed!

re: the inter-league games. of course i agree with you! ... EXCEPT IT HASNT HAPPENED YET MORON! as of dlight's analysis now, its *basically* fair. if you wanna discuss this at the end of the season, then of course its different. duh.

Originally posted by arlacuesta
4. How do you compare head-to-head results when you played against CPU's and "WE" didn't.

*** "WE" meaning the first 8 opponents of Orange Blood (when they were a complete team)

first off, i think you just repeated point 1. but regardless, if "the orange was an awesome team" is the basis of your argument, then lets just stop here lol
 
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rufus and sack zilla run shit.
 
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It all has to do with the defensive coordinators

They run shit
 
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