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zgcreech
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1. Alpine Golfers 10-0: Alpine got a nice easy week against Athens and improved to 10-0

2. Naked Mole Rats 9-1: NMR got their biggest scare of the season other than losing to Alpine this week against Carolina. Although they were outgained by 50 yards and coughed the ball up for a 95 yard fumble return they were able to take advantage of 4 costly Carolina mistakes including a punt return fumble returned for a TD. I you want to see an exciting game watch this one!

3. Northside Dream Killers 8-2: I am tempted to put either Kalamath or New Orleans here but it would be difficult to do until we know the results of tommorrows game between the two. Northside looked bad in their loss to New Orleans and I see them finishing at best with a 12-4 record now. If Kalamath wins agianst New Orleans this week Northside will probably drop.

4. Kalamath Falls Grizzles 7-3: Kalamath makes it here due to record but New Orleans may be the better team, we will find out tommorrow. They looked dominant in a solid win over Battle Creek who is a solid team.

5. New Orleans Golden Kangaroos 6-4: I didn't see New Orleans knocking off Northside but they did and they laid the hammer down. I really expect them to come in a beat Kalamath this week. If they do that they will jump considereably in the power rankings. I am really impressed with New Orleans.

6. Carolina Cardiac Cate 5-5: Carolina came within 2 points of knocking off NMR which would have been huge. They were consistant again running the ball and stopping the run. They do that better than any team but Alpine. Turnovers are still a big problem with Carolina as is starting field position. They need to make improvements in the kicking game this offseason to help get their defense out of bad situations. A quarterback leading the league in interceptions does not help either.

7. Battle Creek Bullies 5-5: Their 3 game loosing streak is not likely to stop this week against NMR but the rest of their schedule is easy. If they loose to Miami they will go 9-7. They will need to avoid losses to the Hawks or Roadfrogs. I think the Bullies are the luckiest team in the conference because Austin going under may just be what they needed to get into the playoffs.

8. Miami Canes 5-5: They will go at worst 7-9 this season and beat Minnesota so they hold the tie breaker. I think Miami is in decent shape for the playoff picture but they will have to beat either Carolina or Battle Creek to go 8-8 which will be a must. I think they win at least one of those games. If they win both they are a lock for the playoffs.

9. Minnesota Ambush 4-6: Minnesota makes a huge jump here because they continue to rub the beerbelly for luck. They also have taken down New Orleans and Rutgers and I see them going at worse 8-8 with a decent shot at 9-7. Rutgers schedule is pretty tough and they have lost to many games they shouldn't have lost.

10. RU Scarlet Knights 5-5: RU needed to beat Minnesota because I think they will loose their next 3 games. Even if they do loose those games they will go 8-8 because the last 3 wins are cake. Still losing to Minnesota hurts because they own the tiebreaker.

11. Miami Roadfrogs 5-5: The Roadfrogs finish the season with a virtual gauntlet of tough competitors. They may win a couple more games but I see a 6-10 finish

12. Harrisburg Hawks 4-6: Harrisburg also has a tough finished and I believe they will also be 6-10 by the end of the season.

13. CAROLINA WOLFPACK 3-7: CAROLINA will finishe 3-13 barring something major

14. Athens Scoregasms 3-7: Another 3-13 team

15. Cleveland Kardiac Kids 1-9: They will go 1-15 and be gone

16. Orlando Ninjas 0-10: Blech


Now I would like to take a minute to talk about inter conference play. I do not like how it is setup and I wish we had all of our games within the conference. Interconference play is not fair currently because half of the teams in our league no matter how bad they are will get a win over one of the many gutted western teams. We are going to see this play out in who gets the last few playoff spots here in the east. Miami and RU both play tough western conference teams while Battle Creek has lucked into a mid season gut job and will gain playoff advantage from that simply fact.

This is not a big deal really but one other thing about the western conference is they have about 6 or 7 games to pad their stats in where we only have one major gut job in Orlando. Cleveland is bad too but at least they aren't a CPU entity. Bascially it is immpossible to get any of the season end awards here in the Eastern conferece because our schedules are much much tougher on the whole. Teams here like CAROLINA and Athens would have at least 6 or 7 wins if they played in the west.

well that is my rant and hopefully this stuff gets fixed. I think the best solution would be to relegate the bottom two teams and any team that has >30% CPU players or low level players. Then replace those teams with other good ones.
 
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Thanks for the rankings! It is getting very interesting in the eastern conference! I hope we manage to cling on to that number one spot, but don't take it for granted. We have three or four tough games left. I said after we played New Orleans in the first week that they were a potential top three team, they looked great in week ten.

When it comes to game sixteen I agree. I think a fair solution would be to have the number 1 team in one conference play the last team in the other, 2-15, 3-14, etc. That way you earn the right to get an easier game in week sixteen, its based on performance, its not random and first of all fair. Furthermore you would get some very interesting matchups around the last playoff spots that would be great to watch.

 
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Thanks for the write up Z. Great job as usual.

Can't worry about G16. Worried about playing the Roo's next. One game at a time! (how's that for some coach-speak ).
 
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Originally posted by cavalier


When it comes to game sixteen I agree. I think a fair solution would be to have the number 1 team in one conference play the last team in the other, 2-15, 3-14, etc. That way you earn the right to get an easier game in week sixteen, its based on performance, its not random and first of all fair. Furthermore you would get some very interesting matchups around the last playoff spots that would be great to watch.



I think this would be a good idea. The randomness of it just doesn't work.
 
cavalier
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The problem would be to get eight homegames for every team, but that could easily be solved by dividing the conference in two, a group of teams with seven home games another with eight. Then match the western eight home games group against the eastern seven home games group.

Another solution would be to add one more team to each conference, that could easily be done by doing extra promotions and then fill up with new teams in the bottom tier.
 
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League restructuring for next season will eliminate a lot of these problems, temporarily. Also, I don't mean to be a dick, but while Carolina might get a few automatic wins out west, the reason the west has so many gut jobs is because all of the other teams are very, very good. The fact that either Portland or Tuscon, one a perennial playoff team and the other a BBB champion from last season, might not make the playoffs speaks volumes to how tough the west is. To be honest I wouldn't give any team out east apart from the top 5 a snowball's chance in hell of even making the playoffs out west.

Those of us in the west who haven't gutted hate the fact that we have such a gaping chasm between the haves and have nots of our league more than anybody, but the fact that the top 9 teams are all capable of beating each other I think lends our league a lot of credibility that some of the teams in the East (mostly it seems to come from the middle tier ones) simply refuse to give us credit for. There may be fewer ridiculous blowouts out East, but I think if you look at teams like Alpine and NMR there's still a roughly equal number of certain victories for them as there are for a team like Oakland or Spicewood - ours are just by larger margins because the league is so tough that some of the owners bailed, and therefore the new owners have a lot of work to do.
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So as a lower-tier team from the East I'm gonna throw out a big 'ol pile of that's just BS.

I guaran-damn-tee you if we were in the West we'd be in the playoffs. As a matter of fact we would be in the top 5 in the West. In the East we'll be lucky to make the playoffs.

The fact that in the West you are given 7 wins just by holding your team together in speaks more to the inequality of the leagues. So let's just be honest with ourselves, in the East there is only one team (sorry Orlando) that we get as a down game...everyone else, if they played in the west, would likely be a 9-7 team. Minimum! And since 7 teams suck that means they only have to better than 1 team to get in the playoffs. That snowball you speak of must be mighty large, or Hell is a lot colder than I have seen depicted, because if you are guaranteed to be #9 and 8 make the playoffs....well, can you explain how hard it would be to make the playoffs?

I would say any East team that is 12 up would be in the playoffs if they were in the West and were guaranteed 7 wins over gutted teams. Not to mention how that helps with your fan support, bank account and recruiting during the offseason.

 
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I don't believe that either. Sorry to Grand Haven but it is my one example. http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=187764
Both leagues in my opinion are about equal and the East has many less gut jobs.
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Originally posted by Gator93
I don't believe that either. Sorry to Grand Haven but it is my one example. http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=187764
Both leagues in my opinion are about equal and the East has many less gut jobs.


Grand Haven is playing a completely different brand of football from that preseason scrimmage. I guarantee if you played tomorrow the outcome would be different. If you want to throw out preseason results - the top 9 west teams were 13-5 in scrimmages. One of the 5 losses was to Harrisburg. The other 4? You guessed it - all to Alpine, NSDK, and NMR. And even if Harrisburg or Minnesota beat Grand Haven, what of the other 8 west teams? The only teams you'd have a chance against are Portland and Tuscon, IMO, and one of them will miss playoffs anyway.

More to the point - we didn't ask those teams to gut. One of the teams that gutted because they didn't think they'd be able to continue to improve going forward had lost to only one east team - Alpine - in its existence.
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Well, we are playing much better now also after we redid everything after our 55-10 and 45-23 losses. Point is the top say 12-13 in the East could probably stick with the top 9 in the West.
 
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Originally posted by Gator93
Well, we are playing much better now also after we redid everything after our 55-10 and 45-23 losses. Point is the top say 12-13 in the East could probably stick with the top 9 in the West.


I think outside the top 5 you'd start to see convincing wins, and outside the top 7 or 8 you'd see blowouts. But we'll see (more or less ) in Week 16.
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Originally posted by rj414
Originally posted by Gator93

Well, we are playing much better now also after we redid everything after our 55-10 and 45-23 losses. Point is the top say 12-13 in the East could probably stick with the top 9 in the West.


I think outside the top 5 you'd start to see convincing wins, and outside the top 7 or 8 you'd see blowouts.


Well we play you today so we will see, . And then we play San Diego tomorrow so we will see if what you say is true.
 
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In my opinion, the top 8 west teams are slightly better than the top 8 east teams. When that is said, I don't think that NMR, NSDK and Alpine are that superior to the other teams in the east. We could easily lose a number of games down the stretch. I think pre-season games aren't saying too much, for instance we played them with most of our team unboosted.

I do feel for you with all the gutted teams. I hate playing games like that. I love statistics and those games completely ruins everything.
 
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Blow-outs, seriously?

Miami, Battle Creek, Minnesotta get blown out by Grand Haven, Portland, Buffalo, Tuscon????

Really????

Well - here's what I'll put out. This season, when the playoffs are going on don't just screw around in the scrimmages (I know we always do). Play for real. Then we'll see who would get blown out and who would be in the top 5.
 
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