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WiSeIVIaN
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Currently I think we can agree that:
1. "Adjusted stats" are a worthless and annoying existance of negative value that no one enjoys in any way.
2. Playing CPU team's in league games is a worthless and annoying existence of negative value as well.


How to fix relatively easily:

#1 on d44/d-04 rollover, do a 2nd league sort. All teams with <40 HUMAN players will be tagged as "CPU/INC" aka incomplete. These teams are to be sorted OUT of human leagues and into special CPU/INC leagues (besides the 1 lowest human league per tier that needs CPU's to fill to 12 teams)

#2 Stats as well as wins/losses against CPU/INC teams. DO NOT count for team record, team stats, player stats. Only stats against HUMAN teams count on the team, player pages, league standings. Teams are tagged as CPU/INC on a per-game basis to account for a mid-season gutting.

#3 Since only stats against human (not CPU/INC) teams get recorded to the player, MVP and HOF leaderboards will no longer be garbage filled with adjusted stats vs CPU teams.

Edited by WiSeIVIaN on Jul 25, 2023 06:35:08
Edited by WiSeIVIaN on Jul 24, 2023 13:03:42
 
Theo Wizzago
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I can hear some disgruntled postings a'comin but... generally speaking I mostly agree. Where I see troubles;

Not sure you can avoid playing CPU teams and... not sure you should have ALL your stats thrown away just because it's a CPU team. Will agree that merit (credit) for running up stats against a CPU team should not count the same. What if it was simply CPU dot based stat keeping? Example;

Full CPU team w/CPU owner = 10% of all stats accredited.

Full CPU team w/Human owner = 15% of all stats accredited.

Partial CPU team w/CPU owner = 15% of all stats accredited.

Partial CPU team w more than 10 CPU dots but w/ Human owner = whatever % of human dots on team. So if team has 75% Human dots then you would only get 75% credited stats.

Those %'s are just ballpark numbers I came up with on the fly so don't take that as gospel. Just wanted to show possible alternatives.
I do agree... this does need fixing as best as possible.
 
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Thanks for the feedback Theo!

However I think there is zero value to the userbase to count stats against teams with less than 40 human players. Everyone involved would prefer those worthless stats from 500-0 games do not exist or get recorded.
 
Theo Wizzago
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You could be right. I suspect Bort knows more about just how certain 'penalties' are applied to games when it comes to CPU owned teams vs Managed teams with CPU rosters, partial rosters, or anything in between. I think your idea is solid... I just don't have the math Bort has access to to look over. All I posted was pure guesswork... but based off decades of playing this crazy game. I still agree... to fix MVP and HOF there must be changes to HOW stats matter/are applied. You have the right idea... but it would be easier to tune it up right if you had the total data to work with. I'd still fire up the Bortman Signal on this. Just don't expect Bortman to follow your idea to the letter.

+1
Edited by Theo Wizzago on Jul 25, 2023 00:01:19
Edited by Theo Wizzago on Jul 25, 2023 00:00:49
 
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