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ProfessionalKop
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just spitballing some ideas so the LB trees aren't so terrible.

Top Tree:
First Step, Shed Block, Disguise Blitz, Superior Vision, Swat Ball

Bottom Tree:
Wrap Up Tackle, Diving Tackle, Monster Hit, Jack Hammer, not sure what would finish off the tree nicely

would be nice to have 3 trees for LBs. Blitz/coverage/HH
 
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its better, but not ideal for a cover guy, if you moved super vision and swat ball left, and moved shed block and disguise blitz right, i would like it more.

if lbs could be positioned to blitz better, i would like it, but i wish my cover guys were closer to the cb trees honestly.

just my opinion
 
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Edited by Dryzzt23 on May 12, 2023 18:16:27
Edited by Dryzzt23 on May 12, 2023 18:15:35
 
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coverage

FS, SB, SH, SV, SDC

HH

WUT, DT, BH, JH, MH

Blitz

FS, TV, SB, DB, BS
 
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Originally posted by reddogrw
coverage

FS, SB, SH, SV, SDC

HH

WUT, DT, BH, JH, MH

Blitz

FS, TV, SB, DB, BS


+1
 
ProfessionalKop
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Originally posted by reddogrw
coverage

FS, SB, SH, SV, SDC

HH

WUT, DT, BH, JH, MH

Blitz

FS, TV, SB, DB, BS


Yeah but would bort actually give one position 3 trees? It’s ideal for a LB for sure but idk if it would actually get done.
 
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Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
Yeah but would bort actually give one position 3 trees? It’s ideal for a LB for sure but idk if it would actually get done.


i would take coverage and h/h, if limited to 2... but i dont really use blitz lbs either , so i'm probably biased.





 
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I'm not gonna get hung up on the particular solution here. All I know is the current Archetype and SA structure for LBs is garbage, and just about any solution is better than status quo.

Hell, maybe make MLB and OLB separate positions altogether? SS and FS are considered different positions. Why not MLB and OLB?
 
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Originally posted by Novus
I'm not gonna get hung up on the particular solution here. All I know is the current Archetype and SA structure for LBs is garbage, and just about any solution is better than status quo.

Hell, maybe make MLB and OLB separate positions altogether? SS and FS are considered different positions. Why not MLB and OLB?


Agreed
 
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Originally posted by Novus
I'm not gonna get hung up on the particular solution here. All I know is the current Archetype and SA structure for LBs is garbage, and just about any solution is better than status quo.

Hell, maybe make MLB and OLB separate positions altogether? SS and FS are considered different positions. Why not MLB and OLB?


i wouldnt want to see an oop for lbs in the different spots.
 
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Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
just spitballing some ideas so the LB trees aren't so terrible.

Top Tree:
First Step, Shed Block, Disguise Blitz, Superior Vision, Swat Ball

Bottom Tree:
Wrap Up Tackle, Diving Tackle, Monster Hit, Jack Hammer, not sure what would finish off the tree nicely

would be nice to have 3 trees for LBs. Blitz/coverage/HH



and make rTE;s 0.5 ALG again, making LBers useful comes with balance disruption. Also, SB at 2 cost base no one would use it.
 
ProfessionalKop
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Originally posted by slashxtreme

and make rTE;s 0.5 ALG again, making LBers useful comes with balance disruption. Also, SB at 2 cost base no one would use it.


Good. Don’t use it. Make blitzing useful again
 
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The super easy fix would be to copy/paste the SS trees

Coverage Abilities
Change Direction: 0 ***
Superior Vision: 0
Swat Ball: 0
Sticky Hands: 0 ***
Closing Speed: 0

Hard Hitter Abilities
Wrap Up Tackle: 0 ***
Diving Tackle: 0
Growl: 0
Big Hit: 0 ***
Monster Hit: 0

Wouldn't need to be play tested for O.P.
Huge improvement, but not perfect

 
ProfessionalKop
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Originally posted by TJ Spikes
The super easy fix would be to copy/paste the SS trees

Coverage Abilities
Change Direction: 0 ***
Superior Vision: 0
Swat Ball: 0
Sticky Hands: 0 ***
Closing Speed: 0

Hard Hitter Abilities
Wrap Up Tackle: 0 ***
Diving Tackle: 0
Growl: 0
Big Hit: 0 ***
Monster Hit: 0

Wouldn't need to be play tested for O.P.
Huge improvement, but not perfect



Would be great. Switch growl for disguise blitz or first step and I’m all about it.
 
Theo Wizzago
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Not terrible ideas but... what we really need is 3 SA trees. One for HH. One for Cover. One for Blitz. Combo and ST can work like they always have.

Of all the positions in the game, I think LB's need 3 SA trees more than any other position. And each Tree should FIT the archetype... as most all other positions do. It's why this argument exists in the 1st place... why we're having this discussion... the SA's in the LB tree suck and do NOT fit well with any of their archetypes because you're trying to cover 3 different dots with 2 blankets.
 
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