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I HAD to honor them!!

KoB's Lester "The Judge" Hayes https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4792260
"The Judge" was one of the 2 best shutdown corners of his era.

A fifth round pick in 1977, Lester Hayes converted from a linebacker/safety hybrid to play cornerback. In 1980, he was named the NFL Defensive Player of the Year after intercepting 13 passes, one shy of tying "Night Train" Lane's NFL record. In 1983, the Raiders acquired Mike Haynes in a trade and the duo formed arguably the best cornerback tandem in league history as they are widely reckoned as being the prototypes for fast and physical corners. He retired after the 1986 season as a five time Pro Bowler, six time All-Pro, the 1980 Defensive Player of the Year, a member of the 1980's All-Decade Team, and two time Super Bowl champion.


Future:
Jack Tatum

A first round pick by Oakland in 1970, Jack Tatum was brought in to be Dave Grayson's replacement. In his first game, he knocked out future Hall of Fame tight end John Mackey and quickly became known for his hard hitting skills. In 1972, he set an NFL record with a 104-yard fumble recovery for a touchdown. By 1976, he helped the Raiders to Super Bowl XI where he delivered one of the games hardest hits by knocking the helmet of Vikings wide receiver Sammy White in Oakland's dominating victory. During his final season with the Oilers in 1980, he set his career high with seven interceptions to give him a total of 37. In his 10 seasons, Tatum was a three time Pro Bowler, two time All-Pro, and Super Bowl Champion.

Originally posted by King of Bling
I HAD to honor them!!

KoB's Lester "The Judge" Hayes https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4792260
"The Judge" was one of the 2 best shutdown corners of his era.

A fifth round pick in 1977, Lester Hayes converted from a linebacker/safety hybrid to play cornerback. In 1980, he was named the NFL Defensive Player of the Year after intercepting 13 passes, one shy of tying "Night Train" Lane's NFL record. In 1983, the Raiders acquired Mike Haynes in a trade and the duo formed arguably the best cornerback tandem in league history as they are widely reckoned as being the prototypes for fast and physical corners. He retired after the 1986 season as a five time Pro Bowler, six time All-Pro, the 1980 Defensive Player of the Year, a member of the 1980's All-Decade Team, and two time Super Bowl champion.


Future:
Jack Tatum

A first round pick by Oakland in 1970, Jack Tatum was brought in to be Dave Grayson's replacement. In his first game, he knocked out future Hall of Fame tight end John Mackey and quickly became known for his hard hitting skills. In 1972, he set an NFL record with a 104-yard fumble recovery for a touchdown. By 1976, he helped the Raiders to Super Bowl XI where he delivered one of the games hardest hits by knocking the helmet of Vikings wide receiver Sammy White in Oakland's dominating victory. During his final season with the Oilers in 1980, he set his career high with seven interceptions to give him a total of 37. In his 10 seasons, Tatum was a three time Pro Bowler, two time All-Pro, and Super Bowl Champion.

Over in the UK early 80s I first got into Football via Ch 4 on UK TV... Hayes and Mike Haynes were starting corners for the Raiders as I recall Both were very impressive and the legend of Tatum still hung over the Raiders rep...Added to that was the feared D Line with their "bad boy" attitude. Good times and would have been my fave team were it not for a certain RB who played in Washington

Originally posted by zz man
Over in the UK early 80s I first got into Football via Ch 4 on UK TV... Hayes and Mike Haynes were starting corners for the Raiders as I recall Both were very impressive and the legend of Tatum still hung over the Raiders rep...Added to that was the feared D Line with their "bad boy" attitude. Good times and would have been my fave team were it not for a certain RB who played in Washington


That's an easy one. It's NFL politics in the players union and Corporate NFL!

Many in the players union pushed to make stick-em illegal. The refs hated it and NFL corporate was/is being pushed to make the game shorter(time wise) The ref's took several seconds to clean the football, and their hands, if Lester Hayes even got within a yard of the ball. Remember, he didn't just have it on his hands. He smeared himself from head to toe with the substance. The NFL and players union don't carry much respect for his career numbers.

Jack Tatum is in the NFL HOF. He was inducted in 2004

lol

Originally posted by F00tballJunkie
That's an easy one. It's NFL politics in the players union and Corporate NFL!

Many in the players union pushed to make stick-em illegal. The refs hated it and NFL corporate was/is being pushed to make the game shorter(time wise) The ref's took several seconds to clean the football, and their hands, if Lester Hayes even got within a yard of the ball. Remember, he didn't just have it on his hands. He smeared himself from head to toe with the substance. The NFL and players union don't carry much respect for his career numbers.

Jack Tatum is in the NFL HOF. He was inducted in 2004

Tatum is in the College Football Hall of Fame not the Pro Football HOF

My two cents on this - both deserve it but I don't see either getting in.

When people think of Lester, the first thing they think of is stickum. And they (wrongly) think his accomplishments were because of that.

With Tatum,, the first thought is Darryl Stingley.. I doubt he'll get in either as many believe he was a dirty player and they point to the Stingley injury as proof.

As I said above, I think both should be in the HoF though

Steve Atwater, Mel Blount, Chuck Cecil, Kam Chancellor, Ken Houston, Kenny Easley, John Lynch, Ronnie Lott, Ed Reed, Night Train, Jack Tatum, and Larry Wilson were probably the Dirty Dozen (Bell Ringers) DB enforcers of All-Time. (EDIT: Alphabetical order)

All 12 of them hit receivers to the extent that balls were dropped, catches weren't attempted, and routes were cut short, to protect against being obliterated on the hit that would follow the attempted reception

Originally posted by LT56
Tatum is in the College Football Hall of Fame not the Pro Football HOF




Hmmm, Mandela Effect? I could of sworn Tatum made it. I stand corrected, LT56!

Larry Wilson and Roger Wehrli were two of my favorites growing up.

Originally posted by Backes-to-Backes
Larry Wilson and Roger Wehrli were two of my favorites growing up.

I assume Terry Metcalf, Jim Hart, Jerry Smith, and Mel Gray are favorites as well?

EDIT: Jim Otis also...