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Originally posted by Sonic
Speed, Vision?

If pass blocking it is my belief that speed isn’t important. I had a left tackle pass blocking archetype I think I topped his speed at 55 but got his strength to 100. He did well, although some argued at the time he was too slow for screens. What he did was block closer to the line of scrimmage which keeps the qb from facing the passing penalties from the d line getting close. If I was to do it again, all tackles would have similar speed, guards and center a bit faster.

Originally posted by Dr. E
If pass blocking it is my belief that speed isn’t important. I had a left tackle pass blocking archetype I think I topped his speed at 55 but got his strength to 100. He did well, although some argued at the time he was too slow for screens. What he did was block closer to the line of scrimmage which keeps the qb from facing the passing penalties from the d line getting close. If I was to do it again, all tackles would have similar speed, guards and center a bit faster.

Speed is always under-rated in the O-line, and I like ~80. I'm seeing how a 90 speed dot goes this time round, with only 90 agility this time as well (usually try for at least 92). One thing I'm not so sure on is how much confidence is actually needed, looking back on my G's as 40 or capped doesn't seem to change much in how the dot performs (usually go with what the team I'm on wants).

Speed, IMO, is important to what plays you plan on using a lot. If you're doing screens and pulling guards... plays that require the O-line to get out from their spot and block elsewhere, then you're gonna want some speed. But (as Dr. E kinda pointed out) if you're going staying static to your spot then speed isn't all that big an issue. Most passing plays don't use pulling linemen unless it's a screen so if you don't throw screens then you won't need speed. Most running teams love Pulling guards so speed is important (as is 1st step). Vision is likely much more important to pass blocking than run blocking as you not only have to see the guy across from you but spot incoming blitzers as well. Again, IMO.

Originally posted by Sonic
Speed is always under-rated in the O-line, and I like ~80. I'm seeing how a 90 speed dot goes this time round, with only 90 agility this time as well (usually try for at least 92). One thing I'm not so sure on is how much confidence is actually needed, looking back on my G's as 40 or capped doesn't seem to change much in how the dot performs (usually go with what the team I'm on wants).

Yea, confidence is an odd one. Mostly useless unless the dot begins to lose morale. Then again, BORT always insisted there are checks for actions.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Speed, IMO, is important to what plays you plan on using a lot. If you're doing screens and pulling guards... plays that require the O-line to get out from their spot and block elsewhere, then you're gonna want some speed. But (as Dr. E kinda pointed out) if you're going staying static to your spot then speed isn't all that big an issue. Most passing plays don't use pulling linemen unless it's a screen so if you don't throw screens then you won't need speed. Most running teams love Pulling guards so speed is important (as is 1st step). Vision is likely much more important to pass blocking than run blocking as you not only have to see the guy across from you but spot incoming blitzers as well. Again, IMO.


There is a very uncommon set of circumstances in which the right tackle moves to the left side to pass block. There are a few in which the center needs to get outside to pass block and it’s fairly common for one of the guards to move outside the tackle to pass block.

Originally posted by Dr. E
Yea, confidence is an odd one. Mostly useless unless the dot begins to lose morale. Then again, BORT always insisted there are checks for actions.

i've seen some o-lines with decent builds but low conf just get demolished. they go into morale death spirals way too easily. i few years ago i built a couple of centers that were designed to boost oline morale. at 1st i had a hard time finding teams for them but once signed they quickly got moved into starting and would play about 2/3 of the offensive snaps. it was a great way to counter morale busting defensive lines, and they only sacrificed a little strength and added some blocking (148/100+). its not like centers ever got that many pancakes but amazingly they usually were in the top 2 for centers in their respective conferences. and they definitely gave up fewer sacks/hurries. 1 think they got like 5 combined wl seasons out of them and the rest with pro teams, so i was actually pretty happy with them. but they are probably the least glamorest position in glb.