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Theo Wizzago
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I've actually wondered about this for a long time but have never asked anyone. So you can build a Pass Blocking O-lineman or a Run Blocking O-lineman. Both have Blocking as a Primary but the Run Block arch has Strength while the Pass Block arch has Agility. Since the whole purpose of the O-line is to block (run OR pass) why isn't Blocking the skill you push first and hardest? Has anyone ever built a 160+ (100+ natural) blocking lineman and made Strength/Agility the second skill? Does more blocking offset the difference in Str vs Str & Agil vs Agil? I've always been curious but have never tried it myself.
Thanks in advance.
 
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Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Has anyone ever built a 160+ (100+ natural) blocking lineman and made Strength/Agility the second skill?


Yes, it sucks .
 
ProfessionalKop
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the way i see it is you can have all the blocking you want. wont do you any good when that 160+ strength DT/DE put your 160+blocking C/G/OT on his ass every play
 
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Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
the way i see it is you can have all the blocking you want. wont do you any good when that 160+ strength DT/DE put your 160+blocking C/G/OT on his ass every play


And opens up a nice hole for the HB/rQB to go through.
 
Theo Wizzago
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You guys make it sound almost as if blocking is worthless and you could get away with 50-70 in it and use that for more Strength instead.
 
ProfessionalKop
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Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
You guys make it sound almost as if blocking is worthless and you could get away with 50-70 in it and use that for more Strength instead.


wut. no one is saying that. im just saying having your dot laying on his back because he got bulldozed by someone with 60 more strength wont do him any good.
 
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Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
wut. no one is saying that. im just saying having your dot laying on his back because he got bulldozed by someone with 60 more strength wont do him any good.


*cough*Strong WRers*cough-cough*
 
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Low blocking = you won't necessarily get revcaked from it but the opposing dot may just run thru yours as if it isn't there. Seems like blocking is a "just enough" stat to avoid that happening, and the primary focus should be on strength/winning the battle attributes
 
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isn't blocking part of the formula for how far you can reach to make a block?
 
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Originally posted by drewd21
Yes, it sucks .


This.
 
Theo Wizzago
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Originally posted by psi
Low blocking = you won't necessarily get revcaked from it but the opposing dot may just run thru yours as if it isn't there. Seems like blocking is a "just enough" stat to avoid that happening, and the primary focus should be on strength/winning the battle attributes


Thanks. This is the kind of info I was seeking.

Originally posted by im317
isn't blocking part of the formula for how far you can reach to make a block?


I don't know. GLB gang? I do know I always thought it mattered in both engaging a block and how long you can hold that block. Low Blocking skill would mean (to me at least) that any defender with Break Block (like, every damned one out there) would simply appear as if you never blocked him in the first place as he ripped past you and killed the ball carrier. That's what got me started with all this anyways. I suppose I could break it down a little bit (apologies for crazy).

Dot A.) 170 Strength & 80 Blocking
Dot B.) 150 Strength & 100 Blocking
Dot C.) 130 Strength & 120 Blocking
Dot D.) 110 Strength & 150 Blocking.

All this started when I noticed low strength/high blocking agility Pass Block arches doing a fine job in the running game. None of them had high strength (the 150+ range) but had high blocking and high agility. Now I get the Agility vs Agility matchup in the passing game so no worries there. But that's not an issue in run blocking (or at least not a main issue). And what I got to wondering was does dot A have an advantage over Dot B? Dot C? Even Dot D? I was thinking dot B might be the best build in the end and simply wanted to get takes on that. Thanks everyone.
 
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First time I ran an all passing team I only had pass blocking line. Our run game sucked, short yard situations succeeded only about half the time. Was so bad I stared passing even when I only needed a yard or less. Second time I used all passing I created a full o line of run blocking archetype as STOPS and used the GL formation for short yard situations since that formation has its own depth chart and I could use them over the pass blockers. My STOPS had strength 101, BUt we were successful running. I credited the better results to the focus on run blocking instead of the pass blocking focus on all the primary line used in all other formations
 
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Originally posted by Dr. E
First time I ran an all passing team I only had pass blocking line. Our run game sucked, short yard situations succeeded only about half the time. Was so bad I stared passing even when I only needed a yard or less. Second time I used all passing I created a full o line of run blocking archetype as STOPS and used the GL formation for short yard situations since that formation has its own depth chart and I could use them over the pass blockers. My STOPS had strength 101, BUt we were successful running. I credited the better results to the focus on run blocking instead of the pass blocking focus on all the primary line used in all other formations


Y'know, I think I remember you doing that!
 
Theo Wizzago
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Thanks Dr. E. I agree... a pass blocking only O-line wouldn't be good for running the ball. And I got to thinking that The LT generally faces a much different defender than the Guards or Center do (usually) so there's that as well in the mix of things.
 
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