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atitternip
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Try going into Starbucks and harassing the customers, cursing them, telling them how bad Starbucks coffee is, how overpriced it is, what is wrong with coffee trade across the world (Starbucks is not free trade), and how large corporations destroy small family-owned coffee shops that can't compete. Do all of this and see what happens. (I think the same applies to businesses in which you have long-term investments as well - they will listen to you but if you get disruptive your bank will have you removed no matter how much money is in your accounts)

(Spoiler Alert): they will call the police and you will be escorted away if you do not leave willingly. But wait, you PAY to drink Starbucks coffee and you have done so many times in the past! But wait, this is a democracy and you have a right to freedom of speech! How can this happen?

Because businesses are not democracies and in very few ways are they run like democracies.

-First, you have no choice what country and government you are born into, but businesses are optional. You are under no obligation to sign up/participate and if you really dislike them, you are under no obligation to continue doing business with them. In fact part of the problem with American businesses in my opinion is that people are so non-confrontational that they will continue to frequent a business where they receive bad service. This leads said businesses to give the bare minimum level of service because they know they can get away with it. Consumers should be assertive and if you hate the service you get, leave and never come back. I have done this several times with businesses, and I also will return to one again and again if they give me excellent service even if their prices are slightly higher than their competitors'.

-You are guaranteed certain rights within a democracy, but 99% of all places in America, (with the exception of obvious and provable sexual discrimination or gender discrimination) you can be fired from any business for any reason. If the owner has a bad dream about you or dislikes the way your shoes look, he can fire you on the spot. There is no trial, or hearing, nor is there any need for you to have even done anything wrong. They can just fire you for no good reason. It doesn't seem "fair" but it is reality according to the law.

-Obviously a government cannot outright refuse to "deal" with certain people and situations, but most businesses openly broadcast that they reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason (excluding obvious gender or racial discrimination). Of course they would lose customer is they acted with too much capreciousness, but it is the desire for profit that is driving the "fairness" they display, not a legal or moral obligation.

-Related to this is what I mentioned above about free speech. In a democracy you are guaranteed the right to free speech to an extent. However you may not harass people, stalk them, or camp out inside a place of business and interfere with their customers. If you do, because what you are doing is taking place on private property, the business can have you removed by force if necessary.

-Finally, and ultimately, governments have totally different objectives from businesses. Governments exist to provide common benefits for a large group of people (public works, laws, security and defense, etc.) and are essentially non-profit oriented in their conception. They produce no real product or revenue of their own and their purpose is not geared around turning a profit. Businesses, on the other hand, exist for the sole reason of turning a profit (while providing a desirable good or service to its consumers). Ultimately businesses are about profit though, and the particular good or service they provide for their consumers is in large part determined by the amount of profit it will bring them either immediately or long-term. Government and businesses have very different ends in mind and thus they operate with very different methods.

Probably people will have strong words to say in response to this (probably negative), but I see so many people treating GLB like a government and like a democracy and speaking about it in these terms, and it seems incredibly strange to me since of all the businesses that exist in America, you would be hard pressed to find any that are run like a government, and certainly very few, if any, are run like a democracy. Thus I return to the statement in my title:

GLB is a business not a government - Discuss!
 
sunder B
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Originally posted by atitternip
GLB is a business not a government - Discuss!


Apparently darncat has a new multi?
 
Novus
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I RECOGNIZE this post... this exact post was written on here YEARS ago, near the beginning of GLB's existence. All this guy did is found it, copied it, pasted it, and hoped we'd be impressed with his brilliance.

Nice try. When you OPEN with plagiarism, I know you're not interested in a truly honest discussion.
 
TJ Spikes
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Tl;dr
 
darncat
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Originally posted by sunder B
Apparently darncat has a new multi?


i don't even know what the fuck he is talking about.
All i know is Starbucks kicked 2 black patrons out for being black
which is another reason not to go to starbucks. Is this guy trying to
make excuses for starbucks now? not one word he says makes sense

when i was a kid and used to work at coffee shops, we had one policy:
THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT
 
darncat
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Originally posted by sunder B
Apparently darncat has a new multi?


in any case, ever since i found how to block people's posts
i have been blocking the assholes with nothing useful to say who just pipe in to harass me
you really just proved you are a loser with nothing better to do than troll ppl on GLB
on threads that don't even have shit to do with them. Amazing how pathetic these trolls are.
congratulations, loser. next time you post anything, i won't see it
 
Theo Wizzago
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Of course it's a government. It's a Kingdom (form of government). The land in which this kingdom dwells is open for you to enter. Entry costs money. Rules are in place which you must abide by or be expelled from the kingdom, losing all possessions you have there. The King is benevolent in as much as he actually wants his kingdom to be enjoyed. However he's not as tolerant of those trying to usurp his throne. Be gone, foul vermin. Long live King Bort.
 
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Can I get someone to read it to me.
 
darncat
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Originally posted by BigRatUno
Can I get someone to read it to me.


or translate it to english lol
 
Bluesman
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Originally posted by darncat
in any case, ever since i found how to block people's posts
i have been blocking the assholes with nothing useful to say who just pipe in to harass me
you really just proved you are a loser with nothing better to do than troll ppl on GLB
on threads that don't even have shit to do with them. Amazing how pathetic these trolls are.
congratulations, loser. next time you post anything, i won't see it


Hey darncat, how do you block peoples post? I can't figure out how to do it, is it you need a script to do it?
Edited by Bluesman on Mar 23, 2019 04:34:19
 
TJ Spikes
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iirc, this was posted approximately 1 million years ago when WG was swinging the ban hammer around Willy-nilly. It's kind of funny to think about a time when there were so many users that WG could give out forum bans like Oprah. "A ban for u, a ban for u, a ban for u and a ban for u".

Now we get a post about moving in Mumbai and WG is like "Woohoo! Forum activity!"


 
Novus
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Originally posted by TJ Spikes
iirc, this was posted approximately 1 million years ago when WG was swinging the ban hammer around Willy-nilly. It's kind of funny to think about a time when there were so many users that WG could give out forum bans like Oprah. "A ban for u, a ban for u, a ban for u and a ban for u".

Now we get a post about moving in Mumbai and WG is like "Woohoo! Forum activity!"




Yep. Glad I'm not the only one who remembers when this was first written years ago.

Really odd. Why would someone dig up such an old post and re-post it verbatim years later?
 
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I suspect...


A Tit Turnip...

is someone's multi......

dun Dun DUNN!!!!

Edited by TJ Spikes on Mar 23, 2019 08:47:01
 
Theo Wizzago
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Originally posted by TJ Spikes
iirc, this was posted approximately 1 million years ago when WG was swinging the ban hammer around Willy-nilly. It's kind of funny to think about a time when there were so many users that WG could give out forum bans like Oprah. "A ban for u, a ban for u, a ban for u and a ban for u".

Now we get a post about moving in Mumbai and WG is like "Woohoo! Forum activity!"






Originally posted by TJ Spikes
I suspect...


A Tit Turnip...

is someone's multi......

dun Dun DUNN!!!!



Catch is back??? Or could it be Deathblade?
 
darncat
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Originally posted by Bluesman
Hey darncat, how do you block peoples post? I can't figure out how to do it, is it you need a script to do it?


do you see that little gear looking wheel at the lower right corner of the profile pic
on everyone's posts? IDK if that is because of a script or if everyone has it.
if you see that, you can click on that to do it
 
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