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i've seen this happening on more and more teams the past few seasons, but still was chalking it up to some kind of human error. but this season, every time a player signs to one particular team, when I go to add the new player(s), the offensive depth chart is completely out of whack. i have 2 stopc on the team, and no matter how many times I removed them from offensive center slot, they are right back there the next time i go to add players. same for the other slots. i had to go and cut as many cpus as possible because they kept getting swapped in as the starters, and all my custom slots get wiped out. i have verified an multiple occasions that the DC is correct after I've added players by going off and doing something else in glb, then coming back and see that it was correct. is there some auto reset that i've never heard of? i've created a preset which isnt affected, but i'd hate to accidentally forget to use that preset some game.

I suspect you're doing this but maybe can hit something you might've missed. I had my issues as a ST coach for several seasons until I started really getting religious about the procedure. #1, set Depth Chart as wanted. #2, Save setup as Preset. This should take you to the saved presets page where you then #3, APPLY Preset... every time you make any fix to the depth chart. Even if, and especially if, you adjust the depth chart THROUGH the 'Edit Preset'. #4, lastly, double check the Depth chart one last time after you Apply Preset and make 100% sure it matches up. Repeat step #4 before games as much as possible and, if you can, make sure you select the DC Preset on the Tactic's calendar as well before games (when selecting the AI's).
Ever since I started doing that, I've not had hardly any issues. Once in a blue moon, but not nearly as often as before.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
I suspect you're doing this but maybe can hit something you might've missed. I had my issues as a ST coach for several seasons until I started really getting religious about the procedure. #1, set Depth Chart as wanted. #2, Save setup as Preset. This should take you to the saved presets page where you then #3, APPLY Preset... every time you make any fix to the depth chart. Even if, and especially if, you adjust the depth chart THROUGH the 'Edit Preset'. #4, lastly, double check the Depth chart one last time after you Apply Preset and make 100% sure it matches up. Repeat step #4 before games as much as possible and, if you can, make sure you select the DC Preset on the Tactic's calendar as well before games (when selecting the AI's).
Ever since I started doing that, I've not had hardly any issues. Once in a blue moon, but not nearly as often as before.

pretty much what i'm doing for that 1 team. strange that its only affecting that 1 team for the moment

i just played a scrim, and had my entire offense set. the game wiped out my dc so the offense got filled with defensive players and the dc itself was completely blanked out on the home page.

I haven't had this issue in quite some time (can't even remember the last time). When I did, someone was hitting the auto adjust thinking it only affected the side they hit it on. For me, I set the base depth chart and then have presets for any special depth chart. I use the calendar when I use those.

I use several presets and always use the tactics calendar. Sometimes it seems the default depth chart is changed to whatever preset you used the game prior. But even with using the calendar, sometimes my depth chart is incorrect.

i usually use presets, but this was a scrim. i wanted to use a different ai and just wanted to use the base dc. they dc was completely filled out prior to the game, and completely empty after it.

Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
i usually use presets, but this was a scrim. i wanted to use a different ai and just wanted to use the base dc. they dc was completely filled out prior to the game, and completely empty after it.

Well, the base DC is free... so... that's what you get for freebasing? Honestly, dunno what to say. Not sure I've ever used a base DC as I always have one set one way or another (even if it's the wrong one... done that a few times.)

The DC for my team has been all screwed up this whole preseason
It is fine on the depth chart screen but in the game the player first on the DC becomes the last in line.
Its super maddening... this is one of the first seasons we have used preset DCs 100% of the time,
but it never glitched out like this before. Do these things usually fix themselves once the regular season starts,
or am i gonna have to set my DC upside down from now on?

Originally posted by darncat
The DC for my team has been all screwed up this whole preseason
It is fine on the depth chart screen but in the game the player first on the DC becomes the last in line.
Its super maddening... this is one of the first seasons we have used preset DCs 100% of the time,
but it never glitched out like this before. Do these things usually fix themselves once the regular season starts,
or am i gonna have to set my DC upside down from now on?


That sounds more like a Energy Setting than A DC issue.

It makes no sense- its like some crazy mercy rule is enabled
as soon as we are winning by 14 points or so, the first player on the DC becomes the last.
Otherwise energy setting remain correct, which is the big problem, as i usually have the lower
stamina guys top of the DC so that everyone plays. Now the starter who has the required energy to stay in
is sitting, while the higher stamina back-up comes on. Then he plays until he goes under the energy setting-
\which was set for the lower stamina player, so the back-up barely gets that low on energy, and the starter
thus barely plays. Literally if i set the depth chart upside down, it would work as intended (as soon as we are winning)
Its really fucked up.

I'd say its definitely something bugging the Preset DC.
We are also having the problem that the default DC keeps switching some positions-
with the guys in those positions on the preset DC. Its like it keeps automatically applying the preset
to the default. Every time i log in i fix it and every time i log back on its switched again.

Originally posted by darncat
It makes no sense- its like some crazy mercy rule is enabled
as soon as we are winning by 14 points or so, the first player on the DC becomes the last.
Otherwise energy setting remain correct, which is the big problem, as i usually have the lower
stamina guys top of the DC so that everyone plays. Now the starter who has the required energy to stay in
is sitting, while the higher stamina back-up comes on. Then he plays until he goes under the energy setting-
\which was set for the lower stamina player, so the back-up barely gets that low on energy, and the starter
thus barely plays. Literally if i set the depth chart upside down, it would work as intended (as soon as we are winning)
Its really fucked up.

I'd say its definitely something bugging the Preset DC.
We are also having the problem that the default DC keeps switching some positions-
with the guys in those positions on the preset DC. Its like it keeps automatically applying the preset
to the default. Every time i log in i fix it and every time i log back on its switched again.

Here's the thing. In games where you're getting ahead by 14+, this means your offense vs defense PT balance is out of whack. You defense is obviously being successful and your offense is sustaining drives. This means that your Offense is staying on the field LONGER than the Defense. So if your energy settings are set at 98-99 then once the starter becomes tired, the backup comes in... now both are tired so the backup STAYS in until the starter hits 98 again before returning. This works AWESOME... when your offense and defense are getting equal PT (close games)... not so good in blowouts/easier wins. It's why you see stamina on the Offense is drained while stamina on the defense looks fine/normal.
If you're winning, don't sweat it. It's not worth wrecking the Energy Settings just to try and get equal PT on the offense.

That is why i have every position energy settings set different lol.
Its fine tuned to the starters stamina so that the players rotate roughly the same number of plays
with the starters getting a few more. Without changing it to adjust to this bug, those starters won't play at all

The problem really is that certain of our spots on the DC, like where we need a speedy coverage LB
are set up so the fastest best cover-ing LB will play there until he's tired. Then the next guy may not be as fast-
but he's fresh, so theoretically he's still able to make the play, then as soon as he starts to get tired,
the starter is back in.

Now if the back-up is playing every play, not only is there more chance early he gets beat,
but as soon as he gets tired, now he is really a liability trying to catch up to guys-
and with the energy settings so messed up, it'll keep playing that guy even when he's very tired.

As you said, i really don't want to go to all this trouble to fix it- especially as its a bug,
so it'll either stop happening when regular season ends, or support is gonna have to take a look.
Especially with all the time and effort it took to get it set up right in the first place. However, I can't go
into the regular season with the starters playing 3-5 plays a game: that's just ridiculous and ppl will get pissed
and we will have some at least semi-challenging games in the tournament; we can't expect that
if all our players are out of position every single game we will go undefeated just by showing up

That's all good but, again, it's not so much about the settings (which are important) as it is the GAME you're referencing. Here's a better question for you. Does it happen in every single game? Or only games where the TOP is not equal (between the two teams)? If it happens in every single game you play then it's either the Energy Settings... or it's a bug. If it only happens in games where there's a significant TOP difference, then it's just the way it is. This issue you're describing I've seen before in blowout games where the TOP is like 45-15 difference or more. When that happens stamina usage goes out the window as ST's soak up a dot's stamina and the # of plays a dot plays in gets screwed ta hell and nothing works according to the Energy Settings. It's slightly different in games where it's not a blowout... but the TOP is still not balanced. I know this because I just had this issue last season with backups playing more than starters. Once I looked, it happened in games where the TOP was whack and not the more 'normal' games.
The only other thing I've seen that caused the same issue was the difference between the stamina of the starting dot vs the stamina of the backup. If the starter has LESS stamina then the backup will always get more plays and, sometimes, rather significantly. If you want to change that, make the backup the starter. It should balance out better then.

try changing your energy setting to 99/1