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Novus
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The Wiki appears to be wrong. Regular season record comes first, then head-to-head, THEN points-allowed. That's the way I've seen it play out for as long as I've been playing GLB, and I know it's been discussed at-length by Bort and Catch waaaaay back in the past, but that would've been in the forums.
sunder B
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Not working like that in this case
Both teams 15-1
Away team won only h2h meeting
Away team gave up fewer points
Again, not really upset for this season as it is lol semi-pro, but after years of issues and discussion, if it is not working properly, I would like to at least have the tie-breaker formula publicly posted so there is no confusion.
Both teams 15-1
Away team won only h2h meeting
Away team gave up fewer points
Again, not really upset for this season as it is lol semi-pro, but after years of issues and discussion, if it is not working properly, I would like to at least have the tie-breaker formula publicly posted so there is no confusion.
Novus
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I figured it out... I looked at the Wiki page, and it lists two seperate tie-breaker systems: one for regular playoff games (which includes head-to-head), and one just for the league title game (which does NOT include head-to-head). And that's when I remembered... under the old league setup, every team only played one cross-conference game each season, so the vast majority of title games were between teams who had not played each other that season. So, Bort, in his infinite wisdom, dropped head-to-head for JUST the Title Game. And even after the leagues were restructured, he apparently never changed it back.
So, I was wrong, and the Wiki IS correct... you just have to read the ENTIRE article, not just part of it, and you have to keep in mind there is one tie-breaker for regular playoff games and another tie-breaker for the title game, as dumb as that may be.
Clear as mud?
So, I was wrong, and the Wiki IS correct... you just have to read the ENTIRE article, not just part of it, and you have to keep in mind there is one tie-breaker for regular playoff games and another tie-breaker for the title game, as dumb as that may be.
Clear as mud?
sunder B
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I know head to head is not included
the next tie break is listed as points allowed, which if correct, still assigned the wrong home team in our game too.
I think its probably something completely non-nonsensical like conference record. Probably with the restructuring, conference record became important for rounds 1 and 2, so it was added as a tiebreaker? Probably never bothered with the championship game and the fact that conference record is completely irrelevant for teams of opposite conferences.
That is the only tiebreaker I can think of that the Chiefs lose. 9-1 in conference, and they were 10-0 in the other conference. However using that for a championship game between conferences would be just stupid, no?
the next tie break is listed as points allowed, which if correct, still assigned the wrong home team in our game too.
I think its probably something completely non-nonsensical like conference record. Probably with the restructuring, conference record became important for rounds 1 and 2, so it was added as a tiebreaker? Probably never bothered with the championship game and the fact that conference record is completely irrelevant for teams of opposite conferences.
That is the only tiebreaker I can think of that the Chiefs lose. 9-1 in conference, and they were 10-0 in the other conference. However using that for a championship game between conferences would be just stupid, no?
Edited by sunder B on Feb 20, 2019 13:26:22
Even though I don't see it mentioned. I would guess Conference Record would play a part in it. It means everything in all other Football leagues out there so why would it be completely forgotten here? Oh... wait... GLB... right.
H2H shouldn't matter at all. I mean, if they're in your conference and you lost both games against them, I'd be willing to bet you don't have the better overall record. It might happen now and then... but highly unlikely and not relevant overall. Record should be #1 thing. H2H should only matter when records are tied (as well as other tied factors).
H2H shouldn't matter at all. I mean, if they're in your conference and you lost both games against them, I'd be willing to bet you don't have the better overall record. It might happen now and then... but highly unlikely and not relevant overall. Record should be #1 thing. H2H should only matter when records are tied (as well as other tied factors).
Novus
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Sorry, was in a hurry earlier and missed a detail in your post.
Yep, both Charlestown and Magua finished 15-1 and #1 in their conferences. Charlestown defeated Magua head-to-head, and Charlestown allowed 54 points while Magua allowed 105 points. By either tie-breaker, Charlestown should be home... but instead Magua is home.
Looks like a legit bug to me.
sunder B
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Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Even though I don't see it mentioned. I would guess Conference Record would play a part in it. It means everything in all other Football leagues out there so why would it be completely forgotten here? Oh... wait... GLB... right.
I am speaking about the finals. Conference record for the conference playoffs (rounds 1 and 2) makes perfect sense. Conference record for the Championship game tiebreaker is irrelevant as both teams played different schedules and it favors the team in weaker division.
Maybe we can have an all star game to determine the home field.
Even though I don't see it mentioned. I would guess Conference Record would play a part in it. It means everything in all other Football leagues out there so why would it be completely forgotten here? Oh... wait... GLB... right.
I am speaking about the finals. Conference record for the conference playoffs (rounds 1 and 2) makes perfect sense. Conference record for the Championship game tiebreaker is irrelevant as both teams played different schedules and it favors the team in weaker division.
Maybe we can have an all star game to determine the home field.
thermon
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fwiw... pretty sure DD is doing everything right now. if he can't decide which team gets home field in under 2 seconds, he flips a coin.
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fwiw... pretty sure DD is doing everything right now. if he can't decide which team gets home field in under 2 seconds, he flips a coin.
Good to know. Now I can bribe him with Girl Scout Cookies.
fwiw... pretty sure DD is doing everything right now. if he can't decide which team gets home field in under 2 seconds, he flips a coin.
Good to know. Now I can bribe him with Girl Scout Cookies.
Novus
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Originally posted by psi
Thought it was point differential not points allowed
No, they chose points-allowed in order to minimize the effect of blowout games vs CPU teams. Pretty easy to hold a CPU team to 0 points, but there can be a lot of randomness that determines whether you drop 300 or 400 on a CPU team, and Bort didn't want that skewing tie-breakers. So, making it points-allowed pretty much eliminates CPU blowout games from affecting tie-breakers at all.
Thought it was point differential not points allowed
No, they chose points-allowed in order to minimize the effect of blowout games vs CPU teams. Pretty easy to hold a CPU team to 0 points, but there can be a lot of randomness that determines whether you drop 300 or 400 on a CPU team, and Bort didn't want that skewing tie-breakers. So, making it points-allowed pretty much eliminates CPU blowout games from affecting tie-breakers at all.
nothing works in this game anyway. no point in debating this.
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