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Cheese popcorn is pretty dang good right now.

i just ate cheese and popcorn.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
I'd say Second Wind would be better for this than Distance Runner. IMO.

in this case second wind is far too late (and 2L2L), as the player in question is out of energy by the 2nd quarter
its not the run up time on FGs i'm concerned with- its the fact i can verifiably confirm the kick-offs go MUCH
shorter on average when the kicker is exhausted- likewise i can only say 99% but it sure seems (and would make sense)
that FG accuracy suffers when the K is exhausted as well. Its a very specific situation, having a low stamina guy on KOs
but i've noticed these guys w/ stamina in the teens that will lose 12-15 energy on a kick-off coverage only lose 3-4 points
with distance runner. that comes out to a huge difference after a few kick-offs. Now obviously its a rare situation to have
a player with such low stamina covering every kick-off... but when it happens (and K is one player who might) it follows
that can be an effective work around, especially before the end build where he gets his stamina to a decent level

You could reset free EQ into Stamina... realizing his EQ is likely set into kicking and/or strength so you'd have to adjust max FG distance a bit. Just a thought.

Distance runner only helps on kick offs and punts. Does nothing for field goals. Sounds like you need a better offense but theo has a good suggestion

You're way over thinking stamina for a kicker...it's not even a secondary att, which means it's clearly not that important....

Originally posted by DigitalDaggers
i just ate cheese and popcorn.

well get your on next time and leave mine alone ......please and thank you

Originally posted by Rocdog21
You're way over thinking stamina for a kicker...it's not even a secondary att, which means it's clearly not that important....


plus kickers only go super low on stamina in blowout games, not actual competitive games

Originally posted by Seric
Distance runner only helps on kick offs and punts. Does nothing for field goals. Sounds like you need a better offense but theo has a good suggestion

please read with comprehension. never did i state that DR VA 'helped' with FGs...
however, it would stand to reason that a kicker would not kick the ball as far, or as accurately
WHEN HE IS EXHAUSTED- duh. Considering our kicker is leading the MVP for the 3rd season running
i hardly feel the 'offense' is relevant- we sure as hell didn't have any difficulties scoring on your team
http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2935735

Originally posted by Rocdog21
You're way over thinking stamina for a kicker...it's not even a secondary att, which means it's clearly not that important....


You are correct- its not a major or minor for Ks- and neither is it for a combo FB for that matter
and regardless of any of that, these and every player will be FAR less effective when they have 0 energy-
i would have assumed that was obvious

Originally posted by reddogrw
plus kickers only go super low on stamina in blowout games, not actual competitive games
well, more or less that is true
http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2935673&pbp_id=88755
you could say in a blowout game he still has 32 energy left after his last XP, and that's against
a non-competitive team... on the other hand, you look at the close games we've had, he's usually around 50 energy
near the end of the game. I suppose you could say 50% energy is not debilitating... but you could also say that
having energy in the green as opposed to 50% could be the difference between making a long game-winning FG or not
Obviously its not going to make a K a world-beater by itself, but w/ so few options for Ks VAs, it might help an occasional K



Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
You could reset free EQ into Stamina... realizing his EQ is likely set into kicking and/or strength so you'd have to adjust max FG distance a bit. Just a thought.

that seems overkill... don't want to reduce his K as that is what he's here for.
it seems easier to consider using the VA and then resetting that then going around a large part of career w/ EQ in stamina

I like how defensive you get when people don't agree with you, and turn to smart ass answers.

You have had pretty good advice from people who not only have played longer, but are better than you in this game. Go ahead and waste unnecessary SP's and VA's into stamina for your kicker and punter then...I was only trying to help, but CLEARLY you know it all

Or i dont know improve your offense so you're not kicking far fgs as much but that would make too much sense for a genius like you to figure out. You would rather come back with a smart ass comment because you're too smart to be able to figure out what someone is saying without it being perfectly clear. No shit that it a tired kicker would be less likely to make longer fgs, so common sense would say to improve your offense so you can get closer fg attempts. But don't let your genius iq interfere with your common sense.

Originally posted by Rocdog21
I like how defensive you get when people don't agree with you, and turn to smart ass answers.

You have had pretty good advice from people who not only have played longer, but are better than you in this game. Go ahead and waste unnecessary SP's and VA's into stamina for your kicker and punter then...I was only trying to help, but CLEARLY you know it all

I'm not getting defensive- i'm merely frustrated as hell with you, because you don't read
no where did i even mention using SPs, you constantly attribute things to me which i've never said, in your responses...
this is a constant issue with you, and i don't understand how anyone is supposed to get any wisdom from your
experience in the game when the things you are responding to are consistently misunderstanding or completely off the topic
i don't know how else to say this- please allow your advise to be useful by paying attention to what you're responding to


Originally posted by Seric
Or i dont know improve your offense so you're not kicking far fgs as much but that would make too much sense for a genius like you to figure out. You would rather come back with a smart ass comment because you're too smart to be able to figure out what someone is saying without it being perfectly clear. No shit that it a tired kicker would be less likely to make longer fgs, so common sense would say to improve your offense so you can get closer fg attempts. But don't let your genius iq interfere with your common sense.


now this guy, he just doesn't quit. yeah you finally figured out that i'm saying being out of energy makes a player less effective-
what anything else you're talking about has to do with anything is anyone's guess. I'm spitballing ideas to get around a
specific instance with a specific situation where a K doesn't have many VAs to choose from anyhow and something could
be useful at that time, being that VAs can be reset. None of that has a lick to do with the offense of my team or any other.
I'm sorry you must be butt hurt that the kicker on my team is better than yours, because none of what you say has any
relevance to anything. Its not even my player- it was just an idea based on other players who aren't mine either and success
they had using the distance runner VA for my team which seems to emphasize speed and a lot of running more than other teams. Now I can already hear you say don't utilize speed and constantly scrambling to the ball defenses and don't do this
and don't do that blah blah, and you know what? Why don't you just keep doing whatever it is you do and when other
people look for slightly different options, allow a World to exist where you aren't a damn dictator and where not everyone
in this World has to do things the way you do for you to keep from freaking out, exploding and acting an asshole.

Also, yes Stamina is a skill to hit, but THROUGH training, not SPs or VAs. But you're a genius, we shouldn't need to tell you these things. You should be the one telling us this stuff. As for you pointing out being a team I have a player on, great job. Notice something else, you're far from the only team to do it this season. So feel good about beating them. I also notice a complete lack of League gold in your team's trophy case, unlike the team I have a player on that you beat.

Also a kicker leading the MVP thing is not usually a good thing. Considering your team is 7-7, I'd say yeah, you need to improve not just your offense, but your defense as well.

Offense:

Overall - 5th ranked in your conference
Pass - 6th
Rush - 3rd
Points scored - 5th

Yeah, REAL potent offense you got there buddy.

Defense:

Overall - 4th ranked in your conference
Pass - 3rd
Rush - 4th
Points allowed - 4th

Average, at best defense.

Oh and btw, your K is 3rd in the MVP rankings, now.

Originally posted by darncat
now this guy, he just doesn't quit. yeah you finally figured out that i'm saying being out of energy makes a player less effective-
what anything else you're talking about has to do with anything is anyone's guess. I'm spitballing ideas to get around a
specific instance with a specific situation where a K doesn't have many VAs to choose from anyhow and something could
be useful at that time, being that VAs can be reset. None of that has a lick to do with the offense of my team or any other.
I'm sorry you must be butt hurt that the kicker on my team is better than yours, because none of what you say has any
relevance to anything. Its not even my player- it was just an idea based on other players who aren't mine either and success
they had using the distance runner VA for my team which seems to emphasize speed and a lot of running more than other teams. Now I can already hear you say don't utilize speed and constantly scrambling to the ball defenses and don't do this
and don't do that blah blah, and you know what? Why don't you just keep doing whatever it is you do and when other
people look for slightly different options, allow a World to exist where you aren't a damn dictator and where not everyone
in this World has to do things the way you do for you to keep from freaking out, exploding and acting an asshole.

all I hear here is

"wah wah wah wah wah"

You talk about reading comprehension yet clearly lack it yourself. Please, point out where I said a tired kicker will have no trouble hitting long FGs. Go ahead, I'll wait.

You only get so many slots for VA's. So unless you only plan on putting 10 in each one and less in others (which is a stupid idea), you need to find the best ones to use. Distance Runner for a kicker, is not one of them.

So please, go ahead and test things out. Your team, your choice. But don't bitch and moan when you ask questions and don't get the answer you want because it's not what you want to do.