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An agent on my team rolled CS AEQ for a coverage based LB
and are wondering if its useful, but idk what to tell them
Is this going to be good for a LB in coverage often, or no?

I think not and this is totally out of my foggy memory but... I believe it only works when pursuing the ball carrier (especially from behind). So it wouldn't work in pass coverage which, for a cover LB, isn't the best SA he could get. There's better out there.

Closing Speed
Closing Speed gives this player an adrenaline boost when he needs it most - to catch the ball carrier and tackle him. The player will gain a speed and acceleration boost when the ball carrier is far away and he needs to close the gap quickly.

This skill is very important for players who will be playing a lot of zone coverage, and for the last man on defense.

Additional Levels:
Increases the speed and acceleration boost received.

Depends on if you play zone a lot and if that LB is frequently used in zone coverage. If so, it could theoretically help. However, I imagine there are better SA's he could get instead that will definitely help, instead of possibly.

We actually use our MLB as a deep safety often in pass situations, so it might be useful.
I'm not thinking it would be something for every player, but i'm wondering if it might be solid
to have a MLB who just had super pursuit skills if he is going to be in zone often...
maybe that plus super vision and ball hawk VA to get really good pursuit both while the
ball is in the air and on the ground...

honestly, I'd use something you know will work. Remember this is GLB, just because it theoretically should work, doesn't mean it will.

Originally posted by Seric
honestly, I'd use something you know will work. Remember this is GLB, just because it theoretically should work, doesn't mean it will.

I see where you're coming from, and in a lot of aspects I agree with you. But there is something to be said for trying new things, even in Season 69. But Darncat would have to understand that what he's trying might not work. Or it might work. That's the risk he'll take. And that's life in dotball.

Originally posted by Novus
I see where you're coming from, and in a lot of aspects I agree with you. But there is something to be said for trying new things, even in Season 69. But Darncat would have to understand that what he's trying might not work. Or it might work. That's the risk he'll take. And that's life in dotball.


I understand that, which is why I pointed out that just because it theoretically should work, doesn't mean it will. Essentially meaning to not throw a fit if it doesn't work out or you can't actually quantify if it's working or not.

It stops working once you get within 5 yards, then you resort back to normal speed. So it is great for very fast players, but a slower player will "slow" down so if the other player is faster, then you see the gap widening/closing as CS turns off/on.

Originally posted by Seric
Closing Speed
Closing Speed gives this player an adrenaline boost when he needs it most - to catch the ball carrier and tackle him. The player will gain a speed and acceleration boost when the ball carrier is far away and he needs to close the gap quickly.

This skill is very important for players who will be playing a lot of zone coverage, and for the last man on defense.

Additional Levels:
Increases the speed and acceleration boost received.

Depends on if you play zone a lot and if that LB is frequently used in zone coverage. If so, it could theoretically help. However, I imagine there are better SA's he could get instead that will definitely help, instead of possibly.

I'll see your bolded point and still counter it with my own. The two statements do NOT seem to work together (IMO). The one I specifically highlighted seems pretty adamant that it's ALL about catching the ball CARRIER... not the one without the ball. The one you highlighted now confuses the hell out of me because it seems to act as if it works on dots WITHOUT them having the ball... either that OR it means, because you're in zone (at a distance form the receiver when he makes the catch) instead of man2man (right in step with the receiver therefore close by)... that it only helps AFTER the reception... which is what I was trying to say in that, as a COVERAGE SA it's fairly worthless because it doesn't help STOP the pass from being caught... just making sure you have a chance at a tackle afterwards. Anyways... as you said (and myself as well), I think there are better SA's to pursue than that one. IMO.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
I'll see your bolded point and still counter it with my own. The two statements do NOT seem to work together (IMO). The one I specifically highlighted seems pretty adamant that it's ALL about catching the ball CARRIER... not the one without the ball. The one you highlighted now confuses the hell out of me because it seems to act as if it works on dots WITHOUT them having the ball... either that OR it means, because you're in zone (at a distance form the receiver when he makes the catch) instead of man2man (right in step with the receiver therefore close by)... that it only helps AFTER the reception... which is what I was trying to say in that, as a COVERAGE SA it's fairly worthless because it doesn't help STOP the pass from being caught... just making sure you have a chance at a tackle afterwards. Anyways... as you said (and myself as well), I think there are better SA's to pursue than that one. IMO.



That's why I was saying theoretically it could work if you only focus on the fact that it says players who play zone.

Yeah... it's not the most perfectly worded SA I've ever seen for sure.

I believe what it means is that when playing zone, you won't always be with in 5 yards of the ball carrier,
either if its handed off or passed to him. this SA should help you 'fly to the ball' in these situations.

a typical example may be a FS in weak half zone 10 yds off the LOS, pass to RB in the flat-
fly to the ball, CS SA should give an acceleration and speed boost to close the distance quicker

or an MLB in middle zone, quick pitch to the outside, he has a distance to get to the edge where the RB is-
again CS SA should theoretically give a boost to speed and acceleration to close that gap quicker.
if he takes a good angle, he might now close the play down for no gain... something like that

I haven't seen anyone's LB use it on the few teams I'm associated with in WL...So I'd say, don't do it. There are better SA'S out there for LBers in coverage.

from what i've seen on ST, i would guess that each point in CS will close 1 yard in 20, all else being equal. so either put a ton into it, or none. and even with a lot in it, you are not going to catch a faster player from behind unless they get tired. on defense, i can see why the description says zone or deep coverage, because it will really only work moving to the LOS or laterally. you aren't going to turn a slow player into a speeding bullet nor move all the way across the field to catch someone unless it's a really long run.